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Crashing a Titan in to a planet rly?
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#21 - 2013-03-22 08:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevyn Auscent
Calathorn Virpio wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
It's not going to be a world ending event like an asteroid that size, but it will cause a lot of fuckupage destroying tens of kilometers of city and infrastructure and killing tens of thousands to millions of people depending on how populated an area it lands on and it will have a long term environmental impact.

You DO NOT want a capital ship hitting a populated planet ever.



titan jump drive+warp core=worse then meteor


If the warp core is active still, the Titan will not crash into the planet at any speed, because the warp cores 'drag' effect will slow it relative to the planets surface very rapidly. This becomes doubly true if it was in a low orbit bombarding the planet as it's speed is significantly lower at that point anyway. I would refer to the Pikes landing Carrier crash as a reference for a crash landing showing that a crash landing capital does land at normal speeds rather than super speeds.
Now 'if' the warp core blows, then it would be a significant nuclear event, but only a singular one, nowhere near the scale needed for a nuclear winter most likely (We don't have numbers but it takes way into the gigatons to do this, the largest nuke ever tested was only 50 MT, (Downpowered from 100 MT), & the largest US nuke is only about 8-10 MT. The whole Nuclear winter scenario is constructed around hundreds of them going off over several hours around the entire globe.
However, since Titans normally leave semi intact hulls when destroyed in space, rather than only a few shards of metal & a cloud of dust, we can assume that the warp drives don't always go critical.
When refering to the interceptor overload during the Caldari invasion, also remember that it was deliberatly overloading therefore was considerably larger than if it had gone off when the ship was destroyed, probably by an order of magnitude or two. Also while not entirely clear, the implication was it only knocked ships out of the sky in a few mile radius at best.
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
#22 - 2013-03-22 10:07:56 UTC
Calathorn Virpio wrote:
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#19Posted: 2013.03.22 07:51 | Report | Edited by: Jess Tanner
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but what if i use my wizard hat to cast a spell of protection over the planet?


its a freaking video game people....



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Sitarta Radeih
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-03-22 10:21:53 UTC
Grigori Annunaki wrote:
Fortunately for us, Purdue University has an impact calculator that can give us a decent idea of what might happen. First, though, we need some numbers.

A Leviathan has a mass of 2,430,000,000 kg and a volume of 132,500,000 m3, which gives us an overall density of 18.34 kg/m3. Most of the titan is empty space, though its armor would resist a lot of the heat from reentry, so let's bump that to 20 kg/m3. It has a rough "diameter" of 3 km according to the model. Assuming it's propelled into the planet and doesn't just fall out of space, it could have a rough impact velocity of 25 km/s.

According to the site, this has the following effects:

A crater depth of 631 m and diameter of 2.97 km.
Magnitude 7.2 earthquake at the point of impact.
At 20 km from impact, 627 m/s wind velocity, major structural damage to buildings, and a catastrophic thermal blast.
At 40 km from impact, 245 m/s wind velocity, considerable structural damage, and a catastrophic thermal blast.
At 80 km from impact, 82.2 m/s wind velocity, slight structural damage, and enough thermal damage to severely burn people and set things on fire.

In short, utter devastation and incineration out to 40 km, with severe wind and thermal damage out past 80 km. It wouldn't be an extinction-level event, but it would obliterate the area it crashed into. By way of comparison, if it crashed in Trenton, NJ, the impact would destroy New York City, Philadelphia, and everything in between.


Hey thank's to al of you, for keeping this discussion civilized and al the interesting info!
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-03-22 15:09:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Spooner
What of the citadel torpedoes that have a explosive radius of 2km and the doomsday weapon that can annihilate a State? I would imagine the power core of the titan would have to be powered by something immense and utterly volatile, as well as the 1 million or so stored megawatts in the capacitor that will disperse upon the ship's destruction. Let's not forget the fuel as well, which would add to the destruction. At the very least the amount of raw materials, gasses, and other unnatural materials that the titan consists of would destroy the planets ecosystem. This is assuming the titan pilot doesn't just decide to actually launch the doomsday weapon and fire off the citadel torpedos, because screw it he's going to die anyways.
Gabriel Santagalos
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-03-22 21:06:19 UTC
He wouldnt just fire anything, because, that planet IS Caldari Prime. Its one thing to fire a DD or Missiles at corralled in Gallente civilian districts, another to fry your own Homeworld just because you are going down.

I concede that the Ecosphere will get severe trouble, though.
Calathorn Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-03-22 21:20:27 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
What of the citadel torpedoes that have a explosive radius of 2km and the doomsday weapon that can annihilate a State? I would imagine the power core of the titan would have to be powered by something immense and utterly volatile, as well as the 1 million or so stored megawatts in the capacitor that will disperse upon the ship's destruction. Let's not forget the fuel as well, which would add to the destruction. At the very least the amount of raw materials, gasses, and other unnatural materials that the titan consists of would destroy the planets ecosystem. This is assuming the titan pilot doesn't just decide to actually launch the doomsday weapon and fire off the citadel torpedos, because screw it he's going to die anyways.




woulda pointed the titan at gallente prime and given them a big F-YOU ..I. DD timeTwisted

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Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#27 - 2013-03-22 22:09:26 UTC
Guys, it was only part of the titan that hit the planet. Sheesh.
"as a burning section of the forward superstructure of the Shiigeru almost seven kilometers in length"

There you go. 7 kilometers.
Sanadras Riahn
Turbo Nuclear Pirate Punch
#28 - 2013-03-22 23:01:02 UTC
Adding to Inkarr's comment, the SCOPE article mentioned that the reactor and all portions of the engineering section were obliterated by the explosion, due to the reactor melting down. That would suggest that the "warp core + power core" doomsday you were talking about is not a threat, either.

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