EVE General Discussion

And I suppose you believe I can just go and claim the latest bit of Gaea vomit for myself and no one can stop me.
There is such a thing as barriers to entry and the biggest one in any situation is the previous groups.
Here in EVE the fact is that the current coalitions by their actions display they are not interested in having new groups enter the field.
They will either crush them or friend them such that they cant do anything.
There is no ability to get over the barriers and actually compete head to head.

Now lets take whs as an example.
Same rules as null but with the benefits people ask for of no bridging no local and such.
I have yet to find any of them ***** on about how people are going in on their turf.
Instead they either go and kill them or move somewhere else.
New groups move in and old groups move out.
In fact more pvp is done in whs than in null.
Think about that.

imagine if there were no cynos

some lowsec guy could have pointed boat's titan and pandemic legion could have arrived in two-three hours with their supercap fleet through gates as opposed to 10 minutes

ok my mistake then.
Of course that proves that null is just fine on the pvp front then

People take this game way too seriously, that's why nothing happens in Null Sec anymore. There are people who are literly getting paid to play Eve but large alliances, who treat the finances and politics of this game as serious as one would in the real world. Thousands of real world dollars get traded and blow up in this game on a regular basis. Its ceased being a game and has become far too real for far too many people and when **** is real, just like real life, it becomes less fun.

People used engage each other in Null Sec because of silly rivalries and some channel smack talk, its all it took.. because it used to be a game. Suddenly now we have to "deal with situations" and "consider the seriousness of events".. and other borderline ****** things to consider in a video game. There was a time even I remember when a BoB member would fly into a system and we shot at them just because we wanted to and we didn't give a **** about our alliances or corporate CEO's approval. Today before you can shoot at someone it has to be approved by a bunch of douche bag nerds who think they are celebrities.

Too much douchbaggery.. I miss the old days when you could trash talk someone and kick start a month long war.

Haven't read the whole thread, but this line caught my eye. WTF, why would someone continute playing if it wasn't fun for them? Responsibilities? In a video game? Wow, to get to that stage where playing is more of a chore than it is fun, means you need to get your head sorted and your priorities straight.

Not talking about YOU specifically, but people who don't find it 'fun' to play and carry on as if they head a gun to their head forcing them to do something they don't enjoy.

Nullsec has a lot of PvP. The basic mechanics of PVP in Null are fun (unlimited escalation, no game mechanical punishment for aggression, bubbles, etc.), and nobody who lives in null is really complaining about them (well, there are the AFK cloak whines, but ).

The 2 biggest problems with Null are Sov Mechanics and Carrying Capacity (i.e. livability), along with the broader (i.e. not strictly limited to null) issue of Alliance income sourcing. Fixing the first two would almost certainly increase the absolute number of ships destroyed in Null (better Sov Mechanics = More fights over Sov instead of "Blue or Fight to the Death," better carrying capacity = more targets ratters actually living in the space they own).

Unfortunatly this is what Eve has become and I would say for the large majority of players in particular null secers. Its not uncommon for a Null Sec alliance to require their players to set alarm clocks, skip work to run ops and require people to play marathon waiting sessions as nothing happens. People try to blame the Sov mechanics, and perhaps they are to blame for much of this type of gameplay, but I think these days its far more the leadership of the circle jerk alliances who refuse to fight each other that's the problem. Way too much diplomacy, negotiation and bloc building going on and that has nothing to do with mechanics and everything to do with people effectively allowing their gameplay to be controlled by a bunch of douchbags like Mittani.. I mean christ the CEO of the largest alliance in the game doesn't even actually play Eve and hasn't for a few years now. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with a leader of an alliance who has no interest in the game other than to manipulate politics from outside of the game.

Its gotten really stupid these days. Its why Null Sec is effectively dying in terms of anyone actually giving a crap about it. Most of these alliance blocs will eventually fall apart not because of wars but out of sheer boredom. Null Sec Sov Warefare is no longer the end game in Eve, its really become nothing more than a big time sink with little action. Blob fights hardly create entertaining gameplay.

The best gameplay in Eve right now is small focused corps that group up and fly together in which case it doesn't matter what they do. There is nothing like being in Low Sec running an op with 6-7 of your buddies while on TS. I used to run with some null sec alliances and really it was probobly the most boring experiance I have end in my 7 year career in Eve, even more boring than mining.

Not sure what point your trying to make?

Of course it has to do with the leaders. Why haven't all of the leaders backstabbed each other and put personal glory ahead of some silly alliance? Why hasn't every blob of blues torn itself apart over greed/petty grudges/etc? Where is the ambition to LEAD and not simply follow someone else and keep the safe easy profits coming in? This is EVE, not Polite and Profitable Commerce Online.