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Big alliances and thier static lazy behavior (broken war design)

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#1 - 2013-01-30 18:56:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Last time here was some big rumor about 2500+ people during fleet batte, people were exited about this, personaly i dont like large fights hoverwer i think they are cool and people love them, would be cool if battle like in Asakai become normal in EvE or at last happens more often like 2-3 time per month not like frist time since years, and only because of titan pilot mistake.

This whole battle was ignited by mistake, and happens only because of goon mistake, in normal cases large battles with 1000+ involed happens few time per year only in case when some alliance decide to atack other.

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles and challenges ) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-30 18:59:49 UTC
We're in your nullsec, controlling your game.
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#3 - 2013-01-30 19:06:40 UTC
Welcome to EVE.

As long as tech moons stays "as is" it will NEVER change.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-01-30 19:08:36 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Last time here was some big rumor about 2500+ people during fleet batte, people were exited about this, personaly i dont like large fights hoverwer i think they are cool and people love them, would be cool if battle like in Asakai become normal in EvE or at last happens more often like 2-3 time per month not like frist time since years, and only because of titan pilot mistake.

This whole battle was ignited by mistake, and happens only because of goon mistake, in normal cases large battles with 1000+ involed happens few time per year only in case when some alliance decide to atack other.

To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

Get yourself a titan and you, too, can initiate battles that involve over 2800 people at one time.

Let us know when you're there.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#5 - 2013-01-30 19:14:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Fractal Muse wrote:

Get yourself a titan and you, too, can initiate battles that involve over 2800 people at one time.

Let us know when you're there.


So you blame me for this situation, and suggest that im responsible for this, fosus on theme not at me, or stop positng, trols and people like you post bullshit and next they whine because somone personal atack

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-30 19:20:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Kari Juptris
I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#7 - 2013-01-30 19:32:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Kari Juptris wrote:
I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.



"Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun"




I know why. because you got title in game "Pos fueler" which mean you are carebar in null space.

FIY, Im here from years , i start play eve before you create your character i was part of some sov wars long time ago, another idiot with big ego who think he know more about this game than others, espetialy more than carebears from empire, post like your show only that you are wannable bad ass.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-30 19:34:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kari Juptris
Yeah, you got me. I just fuel my private ratting POS in -0.9 all day. And my character was totally created in 2010, not 2007.

In no way, shape, or form do I own multiple capitals and a super.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-30 19:45:42 UTC
Kari Juptris wrote:
I'm going to tell you what everyone who actually lives out in nullsec is thinking:

You're a hisec mission runner who has no idea what he's talking about. Nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to have fights like Asakai several times a month just for fun. Well, not those who actually own the type of ship you're interested in seeing brawl anyway. You're also implying that we should fight to entertain you.

Shove off.


It might look like I'm empty quoting, but I assure you that isn't the case.
Mc Scam
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-01-30 19:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mc Scam
The nullbears don't want to risk their geopolitical power they fought so hard for.
The thing is this is still a game, means stuff is here to be destroyed not hoarded, hoarding is not fun. Shooting things that are no real existential threats may be entertaining for a while but it lacks that little extra thrill we all love about this game.

Once the big nullblocks realise that they can have pleasure, entertainment, amusement, thrill and lots of adrenalin kicks beyond their immagination.. that will be one of the glorious moments no one forgets. A goal worth losing everything for and even then, rebuilding an empire from the nothingness the dust of war leaves behind is just as satisfying. This ladies and gentleman, this is EVE.

Sadly everyone got a hidden little carebear somewhere deep inside, this parasite must be found and eradicated. Either that or CCP will force it, so don't worry, sooner or later null will burn.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#11 - 2013-01-30 19:56:07 UTC
Big batte get me exited too
Trendon Evenstar
Olympus Gods
#12 - 2013-01-30 19:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Trendon Evenstar
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles)


Have you ever FC'd a fleet? 10 man gang? 20 man gang? 50? 150? 255?

Ok, try managing 3-4 subcapital fleets and their movements, a capital fleet, the active/ongoing battle and ushering reinforcements to the fight all at the same time?

Who are these people? Who can manage such things? Have you ever heard of FC burnout? 0.0 has A LOT of things wrong with it including but not limited to sovereignty mechanics but you are never gonna have commonplace megabrawls because human beings are not equipped to deal with that much ****
Nissui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-01-30 19:59:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nissui
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles) because of broken sov and war mechanic this give them feeling (here no sense to fight on big scale in blob war) in big perspective large battle and total destruction are rare things, in fact this whole supper aliances are lazy expoliters who expolit broken war mechanic most of them prefer carebearing and safe game style, years long, and join battle only on occasion of if they realy forced to big fights.

Not everyone plays EVE for fun. Even if you were a member of a major alliance and did play for fun, you have a responsibility to those of your comrades who are rock-hard for things like territory control and ever-expanding wallets. That's part of sharing the sandbox.

They have won the null game as it has been designed, and you can't change what drives these entities. Your hope lies in CCP wanting to get players interested in vying for sov space again, and adjusting the playing field in some regard.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2013-01-30 20:11:09 UTC
Oh yeah...we needed another 'Nerf the big blue blob" thread. I wont even bother to count what number this might be.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#15 - 2013-01-30 20:21:05 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Oh yeah...we needed another 'Nerf the big blue blob" thread. I wont even bother to count what number this might be.


Its not about nerf , but about fact that some game aspects are worng, and maybe people need a bit other game mechanic, but is ok, if most players are agains changes or they prefer existed game mechanic that alow alliances to contunue thier lazy syle, my post is wrong, so lest go back to our daily lazy style, and enjoy eve like it is.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#16 - 2013-01-30 20:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Trendon Evenstar wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
To the point, alliances and peope are lazy ( lack of big battles)


Have you ever FC'd a fleet? 10 man gang? 20 man gang? 50? 150? 255?

Ok, try managing 3-4 subcapital fleets and their movements, a capital fleet, the active/ongoing battle and ushering reinforcements to the fight all at the same time?

Who are these people? Who can manage such things? Have you ever heard of FC burnout? 0.0 has A LOT of things wrong with it including but not limited to sovereignty mechanics but you are never gonna have commonplace megabrawls because human beings are not equipped to deal with that much ****


Sound like you manage 4 subcapital fleets every day, come on, this sound like every big battle is FC drama, and suggest that large battle and FC sacrifice to fleets happens every day on big scale.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#17 - 2013-01-30 20:25:23 UTC
If someone makes a 50 million isk donation to my corp I'll declare war on the OP and he can make threads about how Wardecs are unfair and need to be removed from the game instead of ones about whatever the crap he thinks is going on in nullsec.
Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#18 - 2013-01-30 20:26:30 UTC
Long live the space oligarchy and there PAX OTEC Straight

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#19 - 2013-01-30 20:29:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
If someone makes a 50 million isk donation to my corp I'll declare war on the OP and he can make threads about how Wardecs are unfair and need to be removed from the game instead of ones about whatever the crap he thinks is going on in nullsec.


Dec me because of forum, Jesus, people these days... Ok do this i dont care :)

Anoter defender of nullbears Roll

EvE isn't game, its style of living.

Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-01-30 20:47:07 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:

So you blame me for this situation, and suggest that im responsible for this, fosus on theme not at me, or stop positng, trols and people like you post bullshit and next they whine because somone personal atack

No, the point is this: If this is something you want to see happen then work towards making it happen instead of making posts on the forum.

This is EVE. In EVE all it takes is some motivation to make things happen.

If you're upset about really large Alliances and don't think they are doing enough then, hey, instead of writing a forum post moaning why not start doing something about it in game?

You can initiate stuff in the game just like anyone else can. But, instead of doing that, you come to the forums and complain.

I'd rather see players in EVE actively pursue their dreams instead of forum warrioring.
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