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this thread maybe? or as indicated in the followup to your post being "taken out of context"?



and in this particular area, clear and concise communication on CCP's part would serve them much better than the vague references of late have.

Considering how widely and intensively POS are beeing used currently,
e.g. some corps pretty much do EVERYTHING based out of a POS (or several) e.g. in w-space but also elsewhere,
they got way to little attention since i actually play EVE, since early 2006.

Please work on the whole thing that is POS, it is an absolutely great feature in EVE and very well deserves more attention.

Cheers
Gal

+1

I would like to believe you, but there have been too many occasions where both Soundwave and Greyscale have seriously ****** up on game redesign projects (their deliverables created more problems than they solved from a user-perspective) to come to any other conclusions than either:

A) CCP operates under a non-user centric design methodology or

B) CCP's game designers are inept in their current roles.

Soundwave's POS-related comment sounds out-of-touch and his past design results lead me to believe that he *is* out of touch with the state of EVE -- I know that sounds completely absurd.

On a related note, I have been wondering who signed off on the CSM meeting notes from CCP and why there are lingering misinterpretations if both the CSM And CCP agreed to the notes' final state.

I don;t think that Soundwave is trying to say that we should expect a Summer expansion centred on POS improvements, just that there will be some sort of POS improvement forming part of the package.

Don't expect huge things, expect an improved corp hangar array or something like that.

The current POS mechanics sucks big time, which is precisely why not more people use them. The potential of the POS as a hub of player generated content in EVE is almost limitless. Cant you see that CCP?

Imo, most EVE players should want a POS if you do this right. Instead you push it back 6 months at a time because its "huge".

Proposal:
We love ship rebalancing, so keep giving us that. Develop a real idea of what modular poses should look like and how they should function, for those who live in them AND those who shoot them. Work ship rebalancing into this: i.e. think about how fleets currently form, what fleets are used in one way or another with Poses, and think about how poses can support ships and roles best. Currently we're just supposed to shoot them with dreads, but lets think about how a battle can be waged over a pos with more shooting of other people instead of just shooting the pos itself. What ship roles do we need to make this happen? How can we fit all players into one or another ship role that is relevant to fights over poses? Since ship rebalancing doesn't seem to take nearly as much coding work as lots of other features, but adds a lot in terms of gameplay, devote the codemonkeys to revamping the codebase for poses, at least partially. I'm not saying we all need poses now now now or anything, just that they really need work, and now is a very good time to lay the foundation for the rest of the work to be done on them.

http://themittani.com/features/poses-apocrypha-and-themes has very good ideas, especially with regards to making a true home in 0.0, or anywhere else poses are used, for that matter. Stations are boring, and they're all the same. Systems are mostly the same, other than some are better for ratting, or mining or whatever. Give us something we can put work into that makes our space more valuable than someone else's. Then make it so that others can take it, because a good bit of eve gameplay is about owning things that you've worked for, and taking things others have worked for. This is a good bit of what brought me to eve, the idea of owning your own little bit of space in the game. Sov is already a high level thing, alliances take it so it doesn't feel like any one individual can claim it, except perhaps the leaders of those alliances and coalitions. Let the little guys have poses, so we can own our little part of space and be internet-spaceship-tyrants over our own hordes of exotic dancers that we store in our space.

Enough with the ridiculous rambling, I think the thing to take away is that now is a great time to lay the foundation and work on design for a pos revamp, while working on ship rebalancing and other features with a revamp in mind.

This..



And this.



Any random guy with a bit of common sense will realize that limited popularity of POSes is the result of a system which sucks. Fix it with a huge rewamp, and it becomes interesting for everyone.

Seriously, the "home" thing has always been extremely interesting for a huge majority of players, EvE or not. Passing by is stupid because it could interest both old players and new-players that would join for that. Saying that you won't do that because of the opposite of what will happen, is rather appalling.

I'm more of a forum reader than a poster, but felt i needed to log in and give this a +1.

Kat.

I would like to get that modular POS. I am not alone - you can see, for example, the original bashing the dead horse thread in the old forums with hundred of pages of support expressed in there over the .. uhh .. was it around 5 years ? Do not remember exactly when was the initial post done in there.

There have been some minor tweaks to the making-it-cut-myself bad system we used to have but its all just bandaid - the fuel bays, the fuel pellets, etc. Small incremental fixes to the most dire issues but that thing needs the overhaul badly.

There might be "just a small number of people" who run the towers but there is nontrivial amount of people in addition to these in EVE who have to interact with these things in one form or another.