Jita Park Speakers Corner

Just hopping on to say that I run four POSes personally. I have lived out of one in a wormhole for a couple of years. The inability of POSes to accomplish many of the day to day tasks required by my members (personal item and ship security, competitive refining, jump clones, t3 assembly, market sales, adding plex to game time) tie us to highsec and ultimately Amarr and Jita. We have a variety of workarounds, such as renting password-protected POSes to corp members, but that is ultimately a hassle and drives up cost for new people looking to make a home outside kspace.

Ultimately I would love to have a tiny station in wspace where my members could have secure individual access (except perhaps to a role so that the POS could be emptied and taken down), I could set up a local market for passers-by who did not want to travel to highsec, I could refine my local ABCs at a competitive rate and manufacture goods for my market, etc.

As a WH resident i was definitely looking forward to the POS being redone. Count me disappointed.

havent progressed to owning or running a POS yet, and from what I've seen , another feature I would want to avoid in its current state. which is a shame as the more content the better.

Have set-up a pos in 4 different wormholes. from when they came out in apocrypha a C1 to a C3

Have set-up various personal (solo corp) "research" towers in highsec. (works fine for this)

In a wormhole, players have no choice but to share a ship assembly array to store there vessels. it cannot be configured any other way.

To get around that problem, when we had 10+ ppl in 1 wh, we set up 2 ship arrays, and had access to director's only in one, and free for all in another. Now these 10 people we know in RL, so trust isn't the issue. Took me a while to work out thru the "roles" system to find that.

When it came to recruitment, to make our corp bigger, it was tough, most that try to join know the pos mechanics are screwed, and only want to join you to lift your stuff and move out.

You can allocate different people to different hangers, so we had 2 corp hanger arrays, 1 was set up with 7 different players using all the divisions, as there own personal "hanger" some used Lockable containers at safe spots. and the directer array, which no-one could access.

I understand CCP didn't want players to "settle wh's" and wanted them to be more nomadic, and maybe that is the reasoning behind the leaving the underwhelming Corporation roles system & pos system to late.

TL:DR Fix poses.

I'm one of a few in my corps that use POS's and currently we're having the fun time of living a corp out of 3 ship arrays, one for director, one for "members" and one for recruits. it's a freaking pain.

we've had to resort to the pain in the arse'ness of having directors setup POS with members own passwords for them to be able to get access to a station, and even then they can only do research or manufactoring as it's too much of a pain to be able to get moon mining setup with corp members

Note how Seagull promises we'll see something about the "new way of planning expansions towards the end of February". Not that anything will happen with reguards to POSes.

PS- Also forgive if I'm under whelmed by promises of CSM participation. The CSM didn't even know the last major update was about bounty hunting until the feature was set in stone. Never mind that I can't remember the CSM commenting about the content of the last several expansions until they were nearly out.

I would like to see POS's worked on. Being the CEO of my corp I am also an enabler. This would help me doing things for my corp and for the Alliance. They need to be a higher priority then they currently are.

I would also like to see POS's wprked on. I read Jesters blog today and I think he summed it up real good.

"Know what I want first? I want a POS I can dock at. One office slot, a space-limited set of corporate hangars, a space-limited personal hangar for everyone in the corp, and that's it. I think that alone would make the wormholers happy... and I think the rest of us can wait. It'd be relatively straight-forward to do, I'll bet, and wormholers can leave their existing POSes in place for everything else. Just a little dockable POS that's just as hard to kill as the current ones to start, maybe with the sentry gun code. Wormholers would use it, null-sec players would use it, a few low-sec players here and there would use it, and it would start us down the road to a new way of looking at POSes. And then CCP could build from there for the next few expansions until we can finally delete the current POS code."

My experience with POS's?

I research and invention right now...
I have in the past done moon mining...
I am one of the POS managers right now
When WH's first cam out we tried to live in a Class 1 in ours. What a pain in the ass.

Am I an Expert? No

Do I have experience? Yes

Please CCP make it a priority.

I manage 11 POSes in nullsec, mostly moon miners. Under the current system they are painful to set up, annoying to maintain, and difficult to delegate. I wish CCP would improve them.

Having done research, invention and lived in a WH under the current mechanics, you have to do something, and soon.

After reading Jester's blog (Angry retort to the QOTW ) Well put.

Kirith Kodachi ( Forget POSes, Make POPs ) A good alternative.