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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1061 - 2013-01-17 16:19:00 UTC
I don't always use a POS...

...but when I do I don't want to make 50 million clicks.

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Ludovic Itovuo
Perkone
Caldari State
#1062 - 2013-01-17 16:19:07 UTC
Post for POS's.
Jimtom
Fancypants Inc
Pandemic Horde
#1063 - 2013-01-17 16:19:28 UTC
Please please fix pos's :-)
John Klecal
Shiva
Northern Coalition.
#1064 - 2013-01-17 16:19:59 UTC
The POS system is bad and you should feel bad

Signed for a POS revamp!
Imuran
Zentor Industries
#1065 - 2013-01-17 16:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Imuran
The whole POS system does need a major revamp with out doubt and really disapointed with the stance CCP are taking.

Just from the pure S&I point of few opening up the manufacturing, copying and invention slots to alliance members and even more so the general public could have a major impact on Eve. Want to make more manufacturing slots avaliable to null-sec? Maybe do it through the POS system.

The security options need to expanded

Only affects POS managers - plainly not true - how many characters live in WH? - they are living out of POS


Whilst a modular POS system would be great just adding functionality/fixing issues would be a good start and this could fit into the new development paradagm and spread out over a number of releases.

For example multiple towers at the same moon (by all means restrict the number of harvesters), adding modules that provide CPU/PG (with appropriate increase in fuel block useage). Personal hangers (including feeding materials etc from them) Low/null sec assembly arrays/labs with improved stats to give low/null sec and advantage
Zakialwe
Hegemonising Swarm Inc.
#1066 - 2013-01-17 16:20:33 UTC
POS's need a revamp please CCP.

What will "kill the business" is not continuing along the track forged in Cruicible.
You spend so much time CCP telling us that everything we do has an impact. It's the same for you. I may not benefit from an improved POS interface directly. But I sure will a few steps down the line.

So please CCP, do not disregard this just because a small number of people are directly affected.
Valeo Galaem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1067 - 2013-01-17 16:20:52 UTC
signed.

All of the good ideas and reasons have already been discussed. All that remains now is action.

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Mad Gus
Defecatio matutina tam quam medicina
#1068 - 2013-01-17 16:21:27 UTC
54 pages already, and most of the states players still have to log in.

Sounds like a bad move from CCP
Raidek
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
#1069 - 2013-01-17 16:21:37 UTC
poses have needed a fix for years.

Please take the effort to fix this legacy system. We already know its a bear of a mess. So stop giving us that excuse =p
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#1070 - 2013-01-17 16:21:38 UTC
HEY GUYS! DUELING DEV BLOG JUST OUT!

LOOKS PRETTY GOOD!
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
#1071 - 2013-01-17 16:21:40 UTC
The pain of maintaining it has stopped me from putting it back up.
Not to mention the standings grind if you space like I did.

Make it better and easier for new players and alike.
Require the charters not the standings? Maybe?

Give me options to make it home, and allow 3 to 5 POS's per moon.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#1072 - 2013-01-17 16:22:01 UTC
Iogrim wrote:
Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
I belive you read that wrong.
Here is what they meant:

Quote:
Unifex stated that what CCP did was spend effort and prototype what would make a good POS system. It would, however, not affect Dust 514 players. Focusing that amount of time and effort on some small singular aspect of the game that doesn't affect Dust 514 and delivering only that “is what will kill the business”. (page 37)


Not really.

The problem I suspect that CCP has statistics, and they do show that only a small part of players actually manage POSes. After all, most of high-sec carebears or 0.0 grunts don't touch them.

HOWEVER, they don't understand that all the people who create the content (or 'enablers') - directors, logistics guys, large-scale manufacturers, etc etc., are the ones who deal with POSes daily. Plus all the Wormholers.

^This.^
There are 80+ people in my corp. Three of them actually manage the POS. Another three or four get notifications for our various roles. The rest of the corp merely *uses* them - or doesn't use them, in part because of the awkwardness of the current system.

So - A change in management would mean that for our three POS, seven of us are *directly* affected on a day-to-day basis, and another 70+ people will be affected on an ongoing basis - and such a change would almost certain include an increase in POS (and WH) activity.

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Preston Vane
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1073 - 2013-01-17 16:22:03 UTC
/signed, as wh inhabitant
Rek'NOR
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1074 - 2013-01-17 16:22:22 UTC
Please fix POSes.

Thank you,

R
Nikonor Drishenko
Perkone
Caldari State
#1075 - 2013-01-17 16:22:37 UTC
Fix it, or i'll kill my cat :>
Livini Naship
Eve Ryuken
#1076 - 2013-01-17 16:22:42 UTC
one part of the "minority" here

i know you can do better ccp
Go2
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1077 - 2013-01-17 16:22:44 UTC
Two step has my full support in this.

If you make CCP Greyscale's vision come true, then everyone will be a POS user.

CCP, tear down this POS.
Sixx Spades
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1078 - 2013-01-17 16:22:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sixx Spades
Oh sure, BUMPING needed to be addressed first, but POS revamping isn't on your priority list? C'mon, CCP!

~signed

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Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#1079 - 2013-01-17 16:23:01 UTC
CCP, you can continue balancing your f'ing ships to "change the meta game", but if you don't fix the things that need fixing for years then you're ignoring problems.
Null sec and PoS's are big on the list.
From what CCP said in the CSM minutes, they were actually going to change and improve the PoS system, which gave me hope they would work on more broken mechanics.
But no, all they want is better graphics and more balancing, and MAYBE a module or two and small UI changes.

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Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1080 - 2013-01-17 16:23:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Alx Warlord
Valeo Galaem wrote:
signed.

All of the good ideas and reasons have already been discussed. All that remains now is action.



Probably there are still annother thousand posts untill we reach this point....

the first 1000 was posted in the first half of the day 1...

knowing that CCP SoniClover needed 1 year to gather 1600 posts on Ideas for new modules...

Also, poetic discussion...http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com.br/2013/01/why-ccp-is-wrong-about-modular-poses.html

And spread the word...

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system