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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#981 - 2013-01-17 15:55:58 UTC
I just wanted to thank everyone for all the fantastic support. I was trying to read everything, but the posts are coming faster than I can read them. Please keep spreading the word, and showing CCP that you care about something being done for POSes.

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Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#982 - 2013-01-17 15:56:19 UTC
two percent of daily logins have now supported this, this minority of people who would benefit is starting to look less minor than you'd thunk, isn't it ccp. I'm curious where this will end. Keep on going people

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread

Mamoru Usobusuke
Sentinel Event
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#983 - 2013-01-17 15:56:27 UTC
What's the point of having modular strategic cruisers which were designed in part for wormhole exploration if you can't switch subsystems in the very environment they were designed for..

Frustrated wormhole resident of over a year.

FIX THIS PLEASE
Rex Augustus
Perkone
Caldari State
#984 - 2013-01-17 15:56:28 UTC
/signed.

POS mechanics (and really the entire POS system as it currently stands) is blindingly stupid, and that's without going into some of the stupidity with moons in general.

These are supposed to be 'player owned starbases', yet they really aren't. They are -corporation- owned starbases that are MANAGED by players.

They need to be 'truly' player owned - I should be able to launch one that only I can use/access.
ACL's need to be implemented (as many others have said).
Reactions need to be looked at and streamlined.

Something BETTER just needs to be done.

The current way POSes are done is dumb. Let's make it not dumb.
Merrizo
Cynocism LLC
#985 - 2013-01-17 15:56:47 UTC
POS are a crucial element for WHspace, the current management and options are quite simply put, shite. CCP's decision to STILL do nothing about this is mindboggling.
Remton Jason Dulyak
Defecatio matutina tam quam medicina
#986 - 2013-01-17 15:56:47 UTC
POSes can be a better place to hang out than they are now. I undestand it would probably force CCP to invest a lot of time and resources to make it happen, but contrary to what's been said, and I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, they're a vital part of an incredibly high number of players, spanning from high sec to w-space. Please, fix them.

Op, you got my

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Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#987 - 2013-01-17 15:57:09 UTC
you have my sword too !

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Drosal Inkunen
Spreadsheeters
#988 - 2013-01-17 15:57:15 UTC
My experience in wormholes means that you definitely need updates to POS systems or new systems entirely.
Fekka
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
#989 - 2013-01-17 15:57:35 UTC
Give the POS some love!
Biterno Sintaph
Reboot Required
#990 - 2013-01-17 15:58:36 UTC
Dear CCP,

When I was a young carebear I dreamt of owning my own little empire. An empire consisting of beautiful Amarr ships, cargoholds full of exotic dancers, and some place to settle down and call my own. A "Biterno's Pleasure Hub", if you will. Some place I never had to share with any other pilot.

And then I learned about the POS interface. And how long and painful it was to set one up. And how much of a pain it was to do things in a POS that would be fairly easy at a station. I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

My point is, a POS revamp doesn't just have to be a "make the bittervets shut up already" feature. It could also be a "Hey newbies, here's a way to carve out your own empire that doesn't require the cost of a Station egg!" feature. You have stated in previous blogs and minutes that a major factor of EVE sales is empire building and empire crushing; giant null-sec fights of people attacking and defending the things other people built. Then encourage the newbies to make more things to crush.

Please reconsider.

Thank you,

~~ Biterno Sintaph
Varag
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#991 - 2013-01-17 15:58:41 UTC
Haveing lived in POS since Apocrapha and them being the only way to live in W space please please please CCP make them a plesure to live in and hay maybe look a bit cooler to? U know considering that they are HUGE proportion of the game to people even outside wormholes. Truely the POS sytem had been due an overhaul for many years. Lets make 2013 the year ofthe POS overhaul.

Regards Varag
Wry Salen
Flying Scissors
#992 - 2013-01-17 15:58:43 UTC
CEO of a small wormholling alliance checking in to say POS mechanics are terrible and my directors curse them out nearly every day.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#993 - 2013-01-17 15:58:57 UTC
I highly support a revamp of the pos system , any indy worth his salt works out of one at some point which means that any one who uses the market is adversly affected by pos' unfavorable condition. Although I would like to see a full overhaul of the system, including higher security and access controls in a modular system, I think that a simpler solution is possible. If you could just combine all hangars and array interface into the central tower then give it a tiered access it would go a long way toward pleasing the community while drawing out the arduous process of an actual pos reprogramming
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#994 - 2013-01-17 15:59:05 UTC
new POS system or no balls.


seriously tho, are CCP guys not playing in w-space and/or in null? do they not see how important (and horrible atm) POS's are?
Come on.
It's one of the oldest mechanics in game at the moment and it needs to be iterated on!

+1

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EmmerTemp
State War Academy
Caldari State
#995 - 2013-01-17 15:59:19 UTC
Why is this even a question... WORK ON POSSES
industrial oblitorator
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#996 - 2013-01-17 15:59:30 UTC
fix it

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Sylia
Jita Surf Club
#997 - 2013-01-17 16:00:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Sylia
Would like a useful pos please

Also, if you go to fanfest, try and find a dev with a head non full of their ass and talk to them about it, a LOT senisbly.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#998 - 2013-01-17 16:00:17 UTC
Allucia Darkcreft wrote:
CCP,

I am a new player; I bought in to EVE after years and years of abstaining with the advent of Retribution.

I come from years of playing virtually every MMO other than EVE. I have an MMO career that can be measured in decades. I have given years of my life to Zork, Everquest, World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI, Rift, Guild Wars and its sequel, and, most importantly yet not prominently, Star Wars Galaxies. Of those games, only my Star Wars Galaxies time is a time I yearn again for. That is because it was a sandbox that allowed true freedom, much to the same extent (though far further in its heyday) that EVE does.

After years of holy trininty hotbar gameplay, EVE has me rapt. It's different. It's freeform. It's bold and ruthless, cold and merciless. It challenges me to use every skill I have in real life — social skills, business skills, and of course some level of dexterity and strategic thinking — to make a path for myself in it. It is a fascinating universe, and I hesitate to call it a game: it is a simulation of reality, and as a result, I am hooked.

As a new player, I feel that my voice should be of utmost concern to you. I have not years of allegiance to EVE. I have not a swath of friends which keep me in the game regardless of the changes you make. I am the 99%; I am the non-subscriber turned subscriber on the verge of becoming an evangelist — an EVEangelist.

To me, the thought of having my own POS is the current driving force. That's what I want to do in your sandbox. Your sandbox is sold as one where I can make my own way and do what I love. POSs are exactly what I want to do, and to think that the one thing that is propelling me in my newfound journey is not of consequence to you has me reconsidering my newfound addiction to your fine product.

POSs represent what I believe to be the most unique aspect of EVE and one of its biggest potential selling points. The PVP aspects of EVE are well known to outsiders, but that you can own your own piece of the game world is something that largely exists only in the minds of outsiders as an element of SWG. I had no idea you could own your own chunk of space until I had already subscribed, and I would bet quite a great deal of money that if non-subscribers knew about POSs, and they were given the time in the limelight with a solid update, that a HUGE chunk of new players would come onboard. This would be especially true if the POS gameplay could offer newer players a way to manage a smaller base in high sec; something simple but something to call their own.

Prove to me that you listen, CCP. Prove to me, and to the new players like me — the ones that you want, which will grow your universe and your profits and give you another ten years — that I owe it to you to give you years of my life, my voice, my imagination, and my money.

Prove to me, and I will be yours.


Here is your chance CCP. Will you take it?
Merlin Centarii
Sundown Logistics
#999 - 2013-01-17 16:00:21 UTC
And after thinking for a minute, I know that every single person in my corp benefits from the use of POSes, so I guess the small portion must include all of them too. This small portion sure seems alittle big these days.
Agent Type
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1000 - 2013-01-17 16:00:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Type