Jita Park Speakers Corner

Couldn't agree with Sed more here, don't forget about WH's

I've spent pretty much my entire eve career inside wh's and whilst my knowledge of how others interact with POS's outside of this admittedly niche playerbase may be limited, industry & production and the nightmare of role allocation and distribution affects low/null/high and ( most especially ) WH.

If CCP wishes to cast us aside as a small portion of the community, could they perhaps publish some statistics to back up this claim?

How many people interacted with a CHA or SMA per month comparatively with stations etc? I realise it will not be of the scale, b ut i question whether we are as 'small' as they represent us being. as I personally know thousands of people log in every day to traverse the space of wormholes from their POS's, run missions or industry from their POS's in null or stage their forward armada in a great conflict from POS's in null/low. They are an integral part of the game the way YOU have designed it.

You made us promises, it's time to keep them. We've been incredibely patient, but you finally said those magic words and you better by god stick to them :)

Regards,

Apathetic Wormhole Denizem.

I'm starting to wonder if they're just testing the community at this point, trying to rustle our jimmies. Yes we'd like a change to poses, no I don't manage one at the moment (because they're so broken).

as someone who uses invention to make isk I whole heartedly support twostep on this motion.

It is very strange that CCP would ignore and decide against implementing a feature that 99% of the entire eve community unilaterally support.

For a change, this isn't raging about something being badly implemented... like monocle gate, or unified inventory, or walking in stations, or factionwarfareLPgate, or mining barge buff etc...

This is the community getting together and saying that WE WANT something in our game.

This is so very disappointing. W-space has not gotten any love since release. now CCP backs down on the POS revamp we've all been looking forward to since CSM 5 brought it up?

Want me to list some other niche features a large portion of the EVE populace doesn't give no fucks about ?

bollocks.

Pos's only effect a small portion of players?

Damn that weed in iceland must be good

hmm maybe ccp should take a look at they sever and see just how many active pos are ingame in all areas

pos effects ppl from every area and need a major overhall from the managment side as well as things like refine rate that null baers been crying years for


for a group of ppl who made what gota be one of the best online games around they seem a bit clueless at times

one of the main reason i voted for selene was that about the pos revamp/re iteration . pls CSM push for POS revamp or improvement! the roles system are PITA and for you to do a invention and building stuff you need a bunch of roles and access to corp wallet division and some of the roles are not intuitive.

so either you revamp post or make more slot available in station for copying and invention and manufacturing

Having had to work with POSes in HS, LS and WH space I confirm they are a pain in the backside and the reason a small percentage of the populace "interacts" with them is two-fold:
A. If we let every scrub recruit have access to the POS tower(s) we'd be robbed blind
B. The interface for managing a POS is so clunky and abnormal NO ONE wants to mess with them, leaving the fewest folks possible to manage the towers that are the industrial/research backbone of Eve and home away from home for WH dwellers. (has anyone at CCP tried to control the mods on a tower lately? it is easily the most dated UI in the game)

The last improvement was the fuel blocks... about 18Mo ago? it was a nice change, but hardly a major change, we just added a mfr. step and got 1 item where we used to have 8, kinda washes out.

Some thoughts... for the CSM, CCP, whoever...
I thought the idea of using the current station egg mechanic was horrible, esp in WH space, but it carries the seed of a really GOOD idea, which should involve minimal coding... create 3 new classes of stations, S/M/L and make them destructible, current stations would be XL and destruction issue left open. all the traits of stations, hangars, personal space, no shield bubble, no guns outside would all be in place (you get a ton of extra HP for the loss of offensive/defensive mods) <-- this needs more fleshing out but its too late to type more.

While a proper full revamp is the desired path, I understand why CCP thinks it would be a maximum effort for minimal gain, I cannot count the number of annoyed corpies who have had to hand over their BPO's to a director for research, or the number of problems caused when setting up a POS in WH space and you forget to restrict access to a certain hangar and all your best PVPer toys are laid out for anyone. The reasons for posting a "keep out" sign on the POS varies from research, to theft to simply being responsible for the logistics of fueling... we have to keep out most of our own folks for our/their own safety.