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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-12-19 11:09:09 UTC
Hello Gents,

Awesome work so far I really like this new look and feel.

I have noticed that what EVEkill shows in kills is not represented on the New System.

On the New system it says I killed 1,023 and on EVE kill it is 1810 under Kane.Killmail.net

Will you be importing kills from EVE kill?

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Colonol Mustang
#62 - 2012-12-19 14:35:31 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Hello Gents,

Awesome work so far I really like this new look and feel.

I have noticed that what EVEkill shows in kills is not represented on the New System.

On the New system it says I killed 1,023 and on EVE kill it is 1810 under Kane.Killmail.net

Will you be importing kills from EVE kill?

First page, last post.

Squizz Caphinator wrote:
This is because zKB only has API verified kills at the moment. So that 600 kill discrepancy means there are 600 kills that zKB doesn't have the CCP provided xml.

Yes, we will be importing manual mails, so no worries about that.

Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-12-19 17:30:38 UTC
Colonol Mustang wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Hello Gents,

Awesome work so far I really like this new look and feel.

I have noticed that what EVEkill shows in kills is not represented on the New System.

On the New system it says I killed 1,023 and on EVE kill it is 1810 under Kane.Killmail.net

Will you be importing kills from EVE kill?

First page, last post.

Squizz Caphinator wrote:
This is because zKB only has API verified kills at the moment. So that 600 kill discrepancy means there are 600 kills that zKB doesn't have the CCP provided xml.

Yes, we will be importing manual mails, so no worries about that.



Thank You

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

realdognose
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-12-20 11:52:47 UTC  |  Edited by: realdognose
Karbowiak
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#65 - 2012-12-20 14:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Karbowiak


Oh hell, IE doesn't like the minimized lists. i shall look at fixing! :)

edit://
it should be fixed now - you might have to clear your cache to get the fixed main.css file. :)
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#66 - 2012-12-21 14:06:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo5771
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.
Karbowiak
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#67 - 2012-12-21 20:52:00 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.


The UI isn't final, as for the whole 'overly complicated for no reason' - what?..

And yes, it's big, it's larger than EVE-KILL, and it's just a thing you have to get used to Lol
Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-12-21 21:30:25 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.


I'm sorry to say, but if you've ever worked on an EDK killboard, you'll find that it's far more complicated than it needs to be and the way it's developed is quite dated to today's standards. While the zkb may not initially be to your liking and change is hard, in this case, it's for the better.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Handax
SYNDAX CORPORATION
#69 - 2012-12-22 18:27:32 UTC
Awesome work guys.
I love the new layout. Its fresh and responsive (bootstrap rocks).
I haven't checked all features yet nor have been digging into it for bugs. But can't wait to get a beta source on my hands to try it out :)


Keep it up!

o7

Respect & Honor

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#70 - 2012-12-23 02:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Is it me or are the Post killmail thingie bugged on this killboard?

When i try to post a killmail and press Post, then i get this long error message:

array(5) { ["timestamp"]=> string(16) "2012-12-23 01:46" ["victim"]=> array(8) { ["Victim"]=> string(6) "Joatmo" ["Corp"]=> string(9) "Dred Nots" ["Alliance"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Faction"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Destroyed"]=> string(5) "Algos" ["System"]=> string(7) "Dodixie" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.9" ["Damage Taken"]=> string(4) "7183" } ["involved"]=> array(6) { [1]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(7) "Fooknut" ["Security"]=> string(4) "-0.1" ["Corp"]=> string(6) "Viziam" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Loki" ["Weapon"]=> string(4) "Loki" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "2411" } [2]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(6) "Korvin" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.1" ["Corp"]=> string(14) "Shadow Kingdom" ["Alliance"]=> string(13) "Best Alliance" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Gila" ["Weapon"]=> string(7) "Ogre II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1773" } [3]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(32) "NightmareX (laid the final blow)" ["Security"]=> string(5) "-2.00" ["Corp"]=> string(11) "Mind Games." ["Alliance"]=> string(20) "Suddenly Spaceships." ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(10) "Vindicator" ["Weapon"]=> string(25) "Neutron Blaster Cannon II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1560" } [4]=> array(2) { ["Name"]=> string(42) "Roden Police Sergeant / Federation Customs" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1439" } [5]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(8) "slickdog" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.2" ["Corp"]=> string(14) "The Priesthood" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Crow" ["Weapon"]=> string(17) "Warp Disruptor II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(1) "0" } [6]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(13) "Salipse Tolin" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.0" ["Corp"]=> string(20) "Federal Navy Academy" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Weapon"]=> string(37) "J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I" ["Damage Done"]=> string(1) "0" } } ["destroyedItems"]=> array(14) { [0]=> string(35) "Small Core Defense Field Extender I" [1]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [2]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [3]=> string(51) "Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)" [4]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [5]=> string(33) "Drone Damage Amplifier II (Cargo)" [6]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [7]=> string(33) "Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I" [8]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [9]=> string(26) "Spike S, Qty: 1400 (Cargo)" [10]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [11]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [12]=> string(28) "Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I" [13]=> string(35) "Small Processor Overclocking Unit I" } ["droppedItems"]=> array(11) { [0]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [1]=> string(25) "Damage Control II (Cargo)" [2]=> string(32) "Hobgoblin II, Qty: 6 (Drone Bay)" [3]=> string(51) "Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)" [4]=> string(33) "Drone Damage Amplifier II (Cargo)" [5]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [6]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [7]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [8]=> string(17) "Warp Disruptor II" [9]=> string(25) "Medium Shield Extender II" [10]=> string(30) "Warrior II, Qty: 6 (Drone Bay)" } }

Either my Firefox is crazy or there is some issues with the web page.

EDIT: Even if i have added my API things to my account on the killboard, it only shows that i have 79 kills there now while i have close to 700 in total now according to EVE-Kill and Battleclinic.

Will the rest of my kills be synced to the killboard anytime soon?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Ashnazg
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#71 - 2012-12-23 12:31:14 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: Even if i have added my API things to my account on the killboard, it only shows that i have 79 kills there now while i have close to 700 in total now according to EVE-Kill and Battleclinic.

Will the rest of my kills be synced to the killboard anytime soon?


Please read at least the last page of this thread.

Blog: [URL="http://www.ilikefalcons.wordpress.com"]White Knights and Manly Explosions[/URL]

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#72 - 2012-12-23 14:20:27 UTC
Ashnazg wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: Even if i have added my API things to my account on the killboard, it only shows that i have 79 kills there now while i have close to 700 in total now according to EVE-Kill and Battleclinic.

Will the rest of my kills be synced to the killboard anytime soon?


Please read at least the last page of this thread.


I have seen it. So it will be fixed soon i'll guess.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Karbowiak
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#73 - 2012-12-23 20:26:52 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Is it me or are the Post killmail thingie bugged on this killboard?

When i try to post a killmail and press Post, then i get this long error message:

array(5) { ["timestamp"]=> string(16) "2012-12-23 01:46" ["victim"]=> array(8) { ["Victim"]=> string(6) "Joatmo" ["Corp"]=> string(9) "Dred Nots" ["Alliance"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Faction"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Destroyed"]=> string(5) "Algos" ["System"]=> string(7) "Dodixie" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.9" ["Damage Taken"]=> string(4) "7183" } ["involved"]=> array(6) { [1]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(7) "Fooknut" ["Security"]=> string(4) "-0.1" ["Corp"]=> string(6) "Viziam" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Loki" ["Weapon"]=> string(4) "Loki" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "2411" } [2]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(6) "Korvin" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.1" ["Corp"]=> string(14) "Shadow Kingdom" ["Alliance"]=> string(13) "Best Alliance" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Gila" ["Weapon"]=> string(7) "Ogre II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1773" } [3]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(32) "NightmareX (laid the final blow)" ["Security"]=> string(5) "-2.00" ["Corp"]=> string(11) "Mind Games." ["Alliance"]=> string(20) "Suddenly Spaceships." ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(10) "Vindicator" ["Weapon"]=> string(25) "Neutron Blaster Cannon II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1560" } [4]=> array(2) { ["Name"]=> string(42) "Roden Police Sergeant / Federation Customs" ["Damage Done"]=> string(4) "1439" } [5]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(8) "slickdog" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.2" ["Corp"]=> string(14) "The Priesthood" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(4) "Crow" ["Weapon"]=> string(17) "Warp Disruptor II" ["Damage Done"]=> string(1) "0" } [6]=> array(8) { ["Name"]=> string(13) "Salipse Tolin" ["Security"]=> string(3) "0.0" ["Corp"]=> string(20) "Federal Navy Academy" ["Alliance"]=> string(4) "None" ["Faction"]=> string(4) "None" ["Ship"]=> string(7) "Unknown" ["Weapon"]=> string(37) "J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I" ["Damage Done"]=> string(1) "0" } } ["destroyedItems"]=> array(14) { [0]=> string(35) "Small Core Defense Field Extender I" [1]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [2]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [3]=> string(51) "Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)" [4]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [5]=> string(33) "Drone Damage Amplifier II (Cargo)" [6]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [7]=> string(33) "Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I" [8]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [9]=> string(26) "Spike S, Qty: 1400 (Cargo)" [10]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [11]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [12]=> string(28) "Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I" [13]=> string(35) "Small Processor Overclocking Unit I" } ["droppedItems"]=> array(11) { [0]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [1]=> string(25) "Damage Control II (Cargo)" [2]=> string(32) "Hobgoblin II, Qty: 6 (Drone Bay)" [3]=> string(51) "Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)" [4]=> string(33) "Drone Damage Amplifier II (Cargo)" [5]=> string(31) "Nanofiber Internal Structure II" [6]=> string(20) "75mm Gatling Rail II" [7]=> string(17) "Spike S, Qty: 200" [8]=> string(17) "Warp Disruptor II" [9]=> string(25) "Medium Shield Extender II" [10]=> string(30) "Warrior II, Qty: 6 (Drone Bay)" } }

Either my Firefox is crazy or there is some issues with the web page.

EDIT: Even if i have added my API things to my account on the killboard, it only shows that i have 79 kills there now while i have close to 700 in total now according to EVE-Kill and Battleclinic.

Will the rest of my kills be synced to the killboard anytime soon?



Mail posting is still not implemented, what you're seeing is the parser spitting out your mail in array form.

As for your mails, we will move mails over sometime soon, but as the board also says on the front page - it's still beta.
So stuff that is missing, is missing cause we havn't gotten around to it yet ;)
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#74 - 2012-12-23 21:03:46 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Alright, thanks for your answer Karbowiak Big smile

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#75 - 2012-12-24 12:42:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo5771
Karbowiak wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.


The UI isn't final, as for the whole 'overly complicated for no reason' - what?..

And yes, it's big, it's larger than EVE-KILL, and it's just a thing you have to get used to Lol


There is 3 ways to get onto the kill page, click the background of the table, click the ship picture or click view. Why 3?

Having all the "picture" information is pretty ****, corp logo, alliance logo, militia all taking up a fair chunk of space yet the information is present in the next table column in a clearer text format. The only thing even needed there is the Avatar of the person + ship picture, rest is pointless.

Removing these useless pictures would allow you to add more information in the second to last 2 columns, like Involved Parties, rather than having a (insert number of gankers) next to everything.

On the actual kill you are yet again, showing duplicate information. The Involved Parties tab, shows the exact same information that the right hand side involved parties does, except its lay out in the same useless manner as the initial page.

There is a WHOLE lot of scrolling on every page, the tables have a massive height setting with an average size font. A lot of wasted space, less efficient browser with all the scrolling. EDIT: SORRY, should have been more specific here, on the killmail page when you scroll down to see table of the fit + dropped/destroyed items the tables are massive for no reason.

My feedback comes across as harsh but the world would get no where without negative feedback, nothing would improve.

I will however praise the fact you can filter by ship class, or rather size. As well as the t1/t2/t3.

I also do not quite understand why there is so much scrolling to get to the bottom, well there is not THAT MUCH but there is very little on each page of kills with from what I can see, no way of showing more.
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#76 - 2012-12-24 12:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo5771
Zagdul wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.


I'm sorry to say, but if you've ever worked on an EDK killboard, you'll find that it's far more complicated than it needs to be and the way it's developed is quite dated to today's standards. While the zkb may not initially be to your liking and change is hard, in this case, it's for the better.


I am well aware how bad the coding for EDK is, most of the methods used in the CSS/HTML is no longer used and most of it is a mess. However from a viewers perspective, it does present the information easy enough.

EDIT: can not even imagine how badly its server scripting and database is :p
Pesadel0
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2012-12-25 16:33:56 UTC
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Zagdul wrote:
Gibbo5771 wrote:
Its horrible, cluttered, lots of information repeated, terrible layout.

Basically takes a nice simple design like evekill and makes it overly complicated for no reason. Also hate the stupid "look at me I am a big UI" thing you have going, makes scrolling more frequent.


I'm sorry to say, but if you've ever worked on an EDK killboard, you'll find that it's far more complicated than it needs to be and the way it's developed is quite dated to today's standards. While the zkb may not initially be to your liking and change is hard, in this case, it's for the better.


I am well aware how bad the coding for EDK is, most of the methods used in the CSS/HTML is no longer used and most of it is a mess. However from a viewers perspective, it does present the information easy enough.

EDIT: can not even imagine how badly its server scripting and database is :p


Well if you manage to make the zkill abit more ed2k in terms of grafics people will love i.

Good work by the way.
Kaivaja
State War Academy
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-12-26 11:22:14 UTC
I suggest you would add wormhole class to any w-space kill, e.g.:

J160722 (C6)
Ashnazg
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#79 - 2012-12-26 12:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashnazg
http://zkillboard.com/related/30001226/201212252200/

I don't understand the related kills. Where do the PL guys come from? As far as I could see they're not on any of the mails, and in theory the BR should look like this: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15648704

Edit: Related kills in general appear to be ****** up. Fix that please. :D

Edit2: Why can't you click a ship to get to the ship's individual stats or a portrait to get to the pilot's stats when you are on the related kills?

Edit3: http://zkillboard.com/related/30000250/201212261800/

When I click on Jaster's lost Dominix, I end up on a Dram that got killed. The linkage seems be bugged as well.

Blog: [URL="http://www.ilikefalcons.wordpress.com"]White Knights and Manly Explosions[/URL]

Squizz Caphinator
The Wormhole Police
#80 - 2012-12-27 21:15:30 UTC
Ashnazg wrote:

stuff


We know. That's why this site is BETA. No point in getting yourself censored over stuff that's beta! :)

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