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Lol I feel like I'm about to put my foot in my mouth but, yes.... it may be a loose example but I ultimately meant that there is no fixed number (at least not implied in anything written thus far).

A thought about the standing lockout of the customs offices;

What if you removed the ability to set +5 and +10 standing lockouts on all customs offices that are outside your own sov space. That way you can still lock out your enemies, but you can't very well put EVERYONE in EVE on your enemies list, so customs offices would be open to most of the general public.

Once you get into your own sov space though, you'll get the ability to also lock out the general public via the +5 and +10 standing options.

Of course you can still set a very high tax on your offices to lock people out that way, but that's another question.

I can't wait to see all the whining when Dust514 finally goes live and the ability to shoot at PI installations becomes a reality too.

I'm sure it'll come as a complete surprise to people that the Eve - Dust514 link is a pvp game too.

You made Hello Kitty cry!

I agree with you, thats why i think it would be best if theirs always a CO no matter what (with a static tax, or just a couple of options but no real way to block out everyone outside of null), and corps can flip it to have their sticker on it to get the tax benefit instead of it going to NPC's.

Can leave the same reinforce mechanics in, but essentially when the structure gets to 0, it fills all the way back up with the attacking corporation now having rights to the tax collector.

People with holdings on the planet don't have to worry about one day not having any access at all, at most, they might have to fear one owner imposing a bit more tight of a tax than another, thats about it.

Another batch of numbers.

Critical factor to build a POCO:

I am alone in a plasma planet, producing Enriched uranium: Actual price 16500isk/unit

Maximum yield: 360 units/day=6M
ROI of the POCO: 17 days


Is the POCO to survive less than 17 days?---> FORGET
Is the POCO to survive between 17 and 34 days?--->Depends of how bored you are.
Is the POCO to survive more than 34 days?---> Great, i get the same that with PI 2.0 but with more risk.

Answer with 90% prob: buy the POS fuel in Jita.

Hey CCP, Remember this ? http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2672

Thats right, the one about CCP CEO apologising to the EVE player base for rushed expansions/features that no-one wants/nerfs that suit the few and not those that actually use the ****, without listening to the player base. ..

Just because he didn't mention PI, doesn't mean you have to **** that up too !

The only way I see this working.....

1. Keep all CO's not in high sec non destructible as they are now.

2. However, you can attack them as originally put forth in the blog... attack it, put into RF mode, come back in 24 hours and "destroy it". When you "destroy" it, you are really gaining ownership of it, not really destroying it.

3. You then can set taxes as you wish. Too high and people either move to another planet or just use launches to avoid your taxes. Too low and you get swamped with people trying to save money on taxes, but resources on the planet are depleted very quickly, hurting everyone's income.

4. No matter what state the CO is in, you can go up to it and get resources out of it, and risk getting your ass blown off too.

5. Maybe make it so that you can't lock out people in low sec with standings, but you can in WH and null sec? I don't know, would want feedback from people before deciding on this definitively if I were CCP.

6. The tariff's would work the same as planned in the blog.

7. CO's would stay in NPC ownership until attacked and "destroyed".


You get the original intent of getting income via planetary taxation, and also the increased player-to-player interaction.

You avoid the problems of trying to get a return on investment of a destructible structure. The CO's become somewhat worthwhile to defend since you would loose whatever income it generated. They would become somewhat worthwhile to attack to gain the income from the CO.

The effect on the overall economy is much much easier to understand and predict, and certainly not as dramatic.

It avoids the vacuum of CO's just after implementation as originally planned.

The only problem I see is that the 10-20 mill ISK income per month... isn't really worth fighting much over.

Team PI, how many of you actually play the game on a regular basis and interact with the PI/Industrial markets?

If none on your team can raise their hand then this is doomed to be one big clusterf*ck.

Low-sec should remain under NPC control. The offices there shouldn't be able to be destroyed or fought over.

I can understand wanting to give low-sec dwellers something to fight over, but this doesn't seem like a god place to do that. After all, it is technically empire space.

To be frank, this seems like one more thing as a whole that just doesn't need to be changed. I do PI in null-sec, and my alliance holds space there, so my planets will likely be fine... but we don't DO this faction warfare stuff. How are we supposed to get the BP's without paying some stupid high price?

Come on... make the blueprints for this available from more then just one place....