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Refocusing: Firing the people who deserve it

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Barakkus
#21 - 2011-10-19 19:31:36 UTC
Wait they fired Zymurgist?
No more random birthday wishes for Zym :(

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Benilopax
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-10-19 19:32:05 UTC
CCP just fired the entire community team in order to refocus on eve?

Are you guys insane?

...
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-10-19 19:33:21 UTC
Let's hope they at least fired that NEX store douche. I forget his name.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2011-10-19 19:33:40 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
citation needed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_needed

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?4155-ccp-focusing-on-the-eve-universe-a-ccp-announcement&p=248808&viewfull=1#post248808

If you read through the thread you'll see that Fallout has released a good-bye letter already.


thanks.

If true and i am not saying it isnt, its really sad. Lets get plenty of friends with at least one year sub into EVE to revert the situation.

I am out of friends but someone could have quite a list.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2011-10-19 19:33:52 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
actually it's never the ceo who gets fired


They do but you never hear it that way. It's usually 'moving onto new things' and I can think of one ceo in the gaming industry who did that within the last few years.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#26 - 2011-10-19 19:35:17 UTC
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
So, apparently a big majority of the 20% that got fired from CCP are the community devs. Well known names are Zymurgist and Fallout.

The CEO (or whoever) of this company decides do ruin the game's development, because money is more important than satisfied customers/developers and also better than a good, playable game.

After he realizes he ran into a wall with his head in front, he decides to fire the employees who had to deal with the shitstorm caused by the outraged community.

Usually after things like this it's the CEO going, not the employees who have nothing at all to do with this whole thing.



They were fired for not properly communicating the :awesome:

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#27 - 2011-10-19 19:35:34 UTC
It's my guess that due to how CCP tends to do stuff, "all in one go", both WOD and EVE were forever waiting on each other to get stuff done due to similar technologies. Party A needs info/stuff from party B, who is waiting on other thing to happen from another section of party B, which itself is waiting on something from... party A. It's a grid lock that can't be solved as long as focus is on both products equally resulting in nothing actually happening.

Thing is that this isn't only between EVE and WOD but also within EVE itself, that's why things never really actually happen and is almost always half arsed. The only way to solve that is to pick a favourite in order to break the impasse, I guess that's what CCP are doing atm.

Whether or not firing community DEVS over this, the ones who have been taking the brunt of our anger, while others who actually created the problem are still employed is probably very much about office politics, sadly.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-10-19 19:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
CCP blew its foot off.

Then it decided it might as well blow its other foot off to make sure.



I really want to know what idiot is making these decisions in their company.

With the feelings of people around the world being focused on issues of being brought up by the Occupy crowd around the world this is freaking straight out moronic.

Its just going to cheese off more people.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-10-19 19:37:16 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
CCP blew its foot off.

Then it decided it might as well blow its other foot off to make sure.



I really want to know what idiot is making these decisions in their company.



Well, it probably starts with Hil and ends with mar.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#30 - 2011-10-19 19:37:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Jada Maroo wrote:
Let's hope they at least fired that NEX store douche. I forget his name.


this.

($1000 pants man clearly doesn't need to draw a salary over hardworking ordinary people)

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#31 - 2011-10-19 19:41:05 UTC
Zymurgist and Fallout. Wow.


I'm really looking forwards to Guild Wars 2 now. CCP is become the disappoint.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2011-10-19 19:43:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Zymurgist and Fallout. Wow.


I'm really looking forwards to Guild Wars 2 now. CCP is become the disappoint.



hammerhead too aparentlyShocked

and wrangler.

those two are really old timers btw.



as in "I remember seeing them posting back in 2004" old timers.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-10-19 19:45:30 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
Let's hope they at least fired that NEX store douche. I forget his name.


this.

($1000 pants man clearly doesn't need to draw a salary over hardworking ordinary people)


So is this enough of a reason for the people that said they would wait and see what CCP does before unsubbing.

You wishy washy guys still going to ride the fence on this?

I Say Unsub till hilmar is gone. And anyone related to nex store.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#34 - 2011-10-19 19:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
They fired the few devs that the playebase likes. WTF were they thinking?

I'm so disgusted by CCPs behavior as of late. I'm truly at a loss for words at how despicable this is. What more can one do to get through CCPs thick skulls?



This is an official "Call To Unsub" proclamation.
Obviously Hilmar was just blowing smoke up our asses with his "apology" and promise to make things right again. This is quite possibly the worst thing to do when trying to make things right.

CCP still doesn't get it. If they're determined to continue with business as usual, lets take that business away. Lets show them that this deplorable behavior will not be tolerated in the gaming universe. Here's the link to the account page:

https://secure.eveonline.com/

Do the right thing. Unsub your account(s).

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
stoicfaux
#35 - 2011-10-19 19:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Amsterdam Conversations wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
citation needed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Citation_needed

http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?4155-ccp-focusing-on-the-eve-universe-a-ccp-announcement&p=248808&viewfull=1#post248808

If you read through the thread you'll see that Fallout has released a good-bye letter already.


Blech. Here's a direct link: http://www.almaroc.com/?p=1896

Depressing.

edit: "And of course, none of this would happen without you, the players, the most amazingly insane bunch of space assholes ever to play an MMO ever." Big smile

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2011-10-19 19:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucien Visteen
One can do this! (Edit: Damn you Cyprus, Ninja edit too fast!)


To the 20% that, well, got the boot.

Thank you for your contribution to EVE Online, big and small.

And I wish you the very best in your future endeavors.

There is only one way to look. Forward!

(come on community, let us show them that we care about them, even if we don't Blink)

And I apologize for any gramatical errors.

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.
Peter VonThal
Raygun Technologies
#37 - 2011-10-19 19:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter VonThal
CCP fires the only people that the player base feels even listen to them or have the slightest bit of rapport with. I thought CCP was headed in the right direction these last few weeks, though I'm sad to see anyone have to get fired these days. But the list of people on certain websites that have (allegedly) been sacked so far (and not just those in the community team).... wow... I guess CCP just still doesn't "get it."
Barakkus
#38 - 2011-10-19 19:56:36 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
They fired the few devs that the playebase likes. WTF were they thinking?

I'm so disgusted by CCPs behavior as of late. I'm truly at a loss for words at how despicable this is. What more can one do to get through CCPs thick skulls?



This is an official "Call To Unsub" proclamation.
Obviously Hilmar was just blowing smoke up our asses with his "apology" and promise to make things right again. This is quite possibly the worst thing to do when trying to make things right.

CCP still doesn't get it. If they're determined to continue with business as usual, lets take that business away. Lets show them that this deplorable behavior will not be tolerated in the gaming universe. Here's the link to the account page:

https://secure.eveonline.com/

Do the right thing. Unsub your account(s).



Do us a favor and stop posting.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2011-10-19 19:57:54 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
Peter VonThal wrote:
CCP fires the only people that the player base feels even listen to them or have the slightest bit of rapport with. I thought CCP was headed in the right direction these last few weeks, though I'm sad to see anyone have to get fired these days. But the list of people on certain websites that have (allegedly) been sacked so far.... wow... I guess CCP just still doesn't "get it."



This is why im besides myself about this.

Its just so insane a dumb a decision that I just left with RAGE at CCP now.

This is MADNESS and its not even Sparta.

**Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence" **
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-10-19 19:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Barakkus wrote:
Cyprus Black wrote:
They fired the few devs that the playebase likes. WTF were they thinking?

I'm so disgusted by CCPs behavior as of late. I'm truly at a loss for words at how despicable this is. What more can one do to get through CCPs thick skulls?



This is an official "Call To Unsub" proclamation.
Obviously Hilmar was just blowing smoke up our asses with his "apology" and promise to make things right again. This is quite possibly the worst thing to do when trying to make things right.

CCP still doesn't get it. If they're determined to continue with business as usual, lets take that business away. Lets show them that this deplorable behavior will not be tolerated in the gaming universe. Here's the link to the account page:

https://secure.eveonline.com/

Do the right thing. Unsub your account(s).



Do us a favor and stop posting.


Response to the Cyprus Black initiation.

Do the right thing re-sub and get more people to EVE so CCP will be more confident about their future profits and retract those personnel changes.

That is probably logical way to achieve something positive about cutting off people jobs.