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First off, you are going to want to increase the export taxes from the defaults so that it is viable for you to continue your business. Let's face it, currently CONCORD takes an insignificant amount of taxes from you currently, and you would be silly to use the current export values in a calculation like this.
Next, since there are going to be less customs offices in the game, there will be less planets being used by PI, resulting in more people being stationed on a single planet. You will see more "market competition" between slumlords wanting people to use their planets which will be interesting.


Yes. Deal with it.


I am dirty, dishonourable blobber who is slowly destroying this game.

I can't believe I agree with you here, but yes DEAL WITH IT

Anela might have a point here. Cheaper semi disposable structures are more dynamic in the sense you get a faster turn over of them: rather than the proven 'fail' of shooting large HP totals. Easy to put up, easy to put down might be a mantra that actually works if HP blocks are the only option.

C.

if thoes 10 mill sheild and such are real then the point of setting one up in LS or W-space will be mute as people will come easely blow them up just for fun and to cauze havoc

since after all that is the point no problem with it where the problem lies is the fact that you haf to be in faction war fare or run incursians just to get a blue print copy

Here in lies the problem i live in W-space at the moment i do neither nor can i do either run faction ware fare or run incrusions

yet still i will be required to go run incrusions to get a customs office that the first person that come's into the wh will call up all his bud's to blow up with no effort and thus i would be forced yet agin to go run incursions

as a blue print will im sure run around 100-250mill in witch case i will not make the isk back to make it worth even putting one up as it wont last but a week in W-space not to mention i would need 8 of them kinda big investment for what is now a profit margin of from 1-10 percent of what i make i can sell and make around 500mill a month profit from loose 1 custom's office and you have lost the cost of buying blue print or a week's worth of trying to get into a fleet to run incursion

would not be so bad but not worth all the work as it take's more time from auchely being able to afford ship's to pew pew in and win some battles and loose some

in short time spent / isk profit + ship replacment / cost of office = .../ time spent making isk doing outher things

sub 200 man group PI will be a profit loss .

agin not a problem for 0.0 and LS as you have space to support this size of crew . How ever not in W-space with span rate of sight's

CCP plz think about this some more before implimenting it as at this point running a pos in W-space is logistical night mare and spend introducing this to W-space will require more people in the W-space and not be off set in profit

making W-space void aside from you groups that do noting but sit in W-space with static high sec and do indrustry


P.S. eve up date u put out focus's and drives the game twards large fleet support needed.... Not every one want's or will comply with such as large fleet pvp is boring and not exciting it's the small gang 3-10 guy's that are the exciting battles. plz quit driving the game to require you to have 500 friends to support a 100 man fleet around the clock

Awesome!
So let me get this straight.

1. No more storage in the spaceport.
2. Paying ransoms for Customs offices
3. Paying taxes to players
Grand total: No more isk for people who have a job!

Yeah... this is an "improvement" in the same way that herpes adds a little extra spice to your lovelife. I like the idea of player owned customs offices, but this implementation is something else. And then we have the ******-swarm screwing up the ice-trade. And 0.0-peeps whining about ore's in W-space... Just what are players supposed to do in W-space?

But at least this means i won't need 3 of my 4 accounts. I like it!

Please give sov-holders the option to allow construction of customs offices by non-alliance entities.

Should it be a choice? Hmm... it could open the door to "ninja" PI operations in 0.0. More chances for conflcit, etc.

Me like. +1

Again CCP has given the SUPER CAP BLOB Alliance the upper hand.

The greif of having one is just not worth it. Supers will just RF it in 5 min or less. Come back within 24 hrs and do it again. Any smart alliance will just move all there PI with alt to high sec and avoid the grief. Price will skyrocket till the high sec alts ramp up production and the zero zero deep BOTTERS ramp up theres.

And only one custom office per planet means only the SuperCap Blob Alliances with control all the LOW SEC PI. For they will just blob any small corp or alliace who put one up. So you either pay the massive fee which they will set to discourage others from doing PI in Low Sec. So you either join the Blob alliace and become a pet or go high sec or just dont bother with it.

Thanks CCP.

1. so this shafts the small players/corps/allainces. tbh wont effect me, but it woudl be nice to see these groups not being punished for being small.
2. any addition structures to shoot is a bad idea. need to be moving away from shooting stuff that dosnt shoot back, its boring and mind numbing
3. ive done pi. teh first and the 2nd incarnation. and its mind numbing, its dull and its far from the vision that impressed everyone back when it was shown, look it up, population pollution all kinds of cool things, making skill books were even talked about.
4. you are in a pet alliance, didnt you get that memo?

Good, maybe you can answer some of the more important questions and concerns CCP Omen blatantly ignored. Forgive me if I missed a response of his in this garbage can of posts. Reading through 550 comments is almost as much of a clickin' chore as PI itself, considering roughly 70% of them are useless responses and +1's. Sorry if I seem overly blunt about it, but I'm a tad irritated by this proposed change and the fact that it's "ready to go" despite the fact that we haven't heard jack about it until now. This is not a change you bring up after already developing it to the point of "ready to go".

My 3 biggest questions/concerns at the moment:

1. How will GCC work with this new structure? Defending it will be difficult. Someone brought up earlier that once the POCO comes out of reinforced, the attacking fleet will now be neutral to the defending fleet, putting the defenders at a disadvantage. CCP Omen said that you could potentially place one near a station(considering some stations are well within 100,000 km away from a planet). Now we have to consider station guns coming into play. Is there anything being done about this? Or is that going to be chalked up as "working as intended"? I'm fairly certain this wasn't addressed, so there needs to be some sort of minimum distance from stations so that sentries don't enter the equation.

2. We need bigger launch cans. A 500m3 launch is hardly compensation for possible tax hikes that can potentially kill the income of the "smaller guy". Believe it or not, the little guys make up a hefty amount of the PI goods supplied to the market. Some of these lone wolves manage over 30 planets at a time.

3. As far as I've seen, there is nothing being done to balance out the risk/reward factor here. The risk and cost of indulging in this new system for the smaller corporations and single players has only increased, and the only counterbalance is that we have bigger links. That's great, except bigger links only compensate the idiots who don't know how to properly set up their planets. We need more output from low security systems. The price of robotics has already doubled! There are inevitably going to be less people doing PI in low sec. They will either cease doing PI or move it to high sec. We need more incentive to continue PI in low sec, or we are going to see a sharp decrease in low sec PI return. Believe it or not, that's where a vast amount of PI on the market comes from.

I hope everyone likes these changes also likes flying T1. Because T2 and T3 will become a lot more expensive.