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No Eve Player Should Miss This Article

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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#1 - 2012-08-28 06:45:21 UTC
I think this is probably the first topic I have created in over 3 years on Eve Forums, but after reading the linked article I came to the conclusion that every single Eve player needs to read it. I would be very curious to hear the opinions on it.

http://themittani.com/features/road-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2012-08-28 06:52:19 UTC
TIN FOIL HATS

Yes, my thoughts exactly.
Too-Boku
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-08-28 06:56:12 UTC
It's happening. The temperature is rising, slowly but surely. We cannot feel the change because we are acclimated. A nerf here, a nerf there, buff here, buff there.

Eve is a helluva lot safer than it used to be. This is not good. Cry
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#4 - 2012-08-28 06:57:54 UTC
Came expecting link to Poetic Stanziel blog. Not sure if this is better or worse.
Josef Djugashvilis
#5 - 2012-08-28 06:58:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Saw the name - james 315.

Stopped right there.

It is probably best for james if folk do not encourage his really strange obsession with miners.

His article will be about miners and how they are destroying Eve. He should change his name to James One-Note.

The self obsessed ego (mittens) and the miner obsessed ego.

This is not a signature.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#6 - 2012-08-28 07:01:53 UTC
Well, I've been saying for some time that the Goons will be gone in 2013 (likely during Fanfest), and these articles just add to that impression.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you

Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#7 - 2012-08-28 07:02:07 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Saw the name - james 315.

Stopped right there.

It is probably best for james if folk do not encourage his really strange obsession with miners.

His article will be about miners and how they are destroying Eve. He should change his name to James One-Note.

The self obsessed ego and the miner obsessed ego.


I have to agree with you there, I did find that their seemed to be some sort of deep rooted hatred of miners in the tone, but despite it I found his arguments pretty compelling as a whole.

I suppose the outlining question is, would it be bad for Eve if High Sec was perfectly safe and Eve had a larger population as a trade off?

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

William Walker
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-08-28 07:14:46 UTC
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Saw the name - james 315.

Stopped right there.

It is probably best for james if folk do not encourage his really strange obsession with miners.

His article will be about miners and how they are destroying Eve. He should change his name to James One-Note.

The self obsessed ego and the miner obsessed ego.


I have to agree with you there, I did find that their seemed to be some sort of deep rooted hatred of miners in the tone, but despite it I found his arguments pretty compelling as a whole.

I suppose the outlining question is, would it be bad for Eve if High Sec was perfectly safe and Eve had a larger population as a trade off?


What good is a bigger population if I can not shoot them?

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#9 - 2012-08-28 07:16:30 UTC
The author is James_315.
I don't need to read it to know what it says. I think most who frequent GD could say the same.
JD No7
V I R I I
#10 - 2012-08-28 07:18:32 UTC
< Got bored of reading when realised epically long highsec ganker whine thread.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-08-28 07:20:41 UTC
I find the complacency and apathy in this thread disturbing.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
The Initiative.
#12 - 2012-08-28 07:27:26 UTC
Good read, coherent arguments; waiting for Part 3.

Btw I think he found a nice niche and business model with the things he does (miner bumbing)

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Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#13 - 2012-08-28 07:27:36 UTC
Quote:
What good is a bigger population if I can not shoot them?


Well I suppose it depends on how you see it and how a larger population would mix into the game. I would presume that if you add say 300,000 more players to Eve today that a certain percentage of them will venture beyond high sec, hence it would likely result in having more people floating around in low, null and wormhole.

I can't really find anything negative about that as a whole. I mean to me, the idea of shooting someone in High Sec seems .... I don't know, pointless at least from the perspective of a Eve player that is the pursuit of advancement, wealth, politics and pretty much anything but the general tear induction that is suicide ganking. I have never shot at someone in high sec except during wars and I have been playing this game for about 7 years and I don't feel like I have missed out on some intracle part of the game or something...

For me, fighting is something that results from my pursuits beyond the borders of High Sec when me and my crew are running our various ops in Null or Wormhole and the occasional low sec ops, we fight and bleed... High Sec is kind of a place we return to, to gear up and get ready for the next excursion be it a short term daily op or a long term home out in space somewhere.

I guess my point is that if you eliminated suicide ganking, as a 7 year veteran that has tried most everything that there is to do in Eve from Sov Warfare, to mining, from can flipping to scamming (suicide ganking aside) I don't see how making high sec safer would have any impact on me at all.

I do find the article compelling because I understand that Eve is played in a variety of ways beyond what I do and have done in the past, but I question the wisdom of maintain a lower population and not reaching a larger audience with Eve is a good trade off just to keep something relatively insignificant like suicide ganking?

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-28 07:27:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyla Skin
Well it's not like theres been any interesting stuff to do added to Eve in a long while. I hope dust brings some. For the last 2 years everything has felt "same old" for me. Whether that same old is dangerous or safe doesn't matter to me. Its still the same old. Adjusting safety of highsec or whatever, I couldn't care less. I feel that even SWTOR is less boring than Eve these days..


Kryss Darkdust wrote:

I do find the article compelling because I understand that Eve is played in a variety of ways beyond what I do and have done in the past


Too bad Mittani doesn't.

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies

Frying Doom
#15 - 2012-08-28 07:30:31 UTC
Holy crap that was a well made article of nutter and whack job.

I really loved "Having demonstrated that the exhumer change was simply a nerf to aggression dressed up as a "rebalance", a number of important questions remain."

Yeah because it made so much sense to have a deep space non-combat ship with a hull made from the same thing as this set of articles, Tin Foil.

Is there an award for nut job of the year? Normally James 315 trolls a lot, I suppose this could be one really long arse troll. I was waiting for his Final Solution as this really came over as a manifesto.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-28 07:34:10 UTC
Trash article on themittani.com nonshocker.
pussnheels
Viziam
#17 - 2012-08-28 07:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Kryss Darkdust wrote:
I think this is probably the first topic I have created in over 3 years on Eve Forums, but after reading the linked article I came to the conclusion that every single Eve player needs to read it. I would be very curious to hear the opinions on it.

http://themittani.com/features/road-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future


Another conspiracy theory, makes the chemtrail conspiracy even more believable

A pretty one sided article with little or no substance, more like a epic whine about people are not playing EvE my why and i demand thatCCP nerf them

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Paul Oliver
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-28 07:35:18 UTC
I don't get why some people who's playstyle is represented in the lowsec and nullsec regions of EVE feel the need to whine and complain about a part of EVE space which is obviously not intended for them. If you don't like certain systems being relatively safeish for the theme park mmo minded PAYING subscriber to enjoy in their way, nobody is forcing you to play in them. Just stay out in lowsec and if that gets too boring you can always fly out to null. Those areas, which I suspect make up the majority of EVE space, are intended for you.
Its good to be [Gallente](http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1209/QEQlJ.jpg).
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
The Initiative.
#19 - 2012-08-28 07:39:31 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Trash article on themittani.com nonshocker.


but,...but...how about this one then?
http://themittani.com/news/breaking-unsupported-ncdot-dread-fleet-killed

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Roderick Grey
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-08-28 07:43:35 UTC
I still don't understand why it's such a big deal that carebears can chill in highsec without harassment unless they're wardecced.

The money's terrible there anyway...

“We could learn a lot from crayons; some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, while others bright, some have weird names, but they all have learned to live together in the same box.” - Special needs division of Fcon.

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