Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A well co-ordinated XXXXXXX could really have max skilled ships on demand despite a deficit of skillpoints making a mockery of specialising or diversifyling.

Because I had a well thought out post that was deleted, I am now quite flustered . So here is a short version of it... By the way CCP I hope you read this. Why does the new forum eat threads when you could simply go back to your post in the old ones? Yours truly, an avid forum lurker.

1. Redistribution should be attached to remaps.

2. You can only redistribute skill points that share the same primary and secondary into each other.

3. The amount of skill points that can be redistributed per remap should be limited to something like. 10% of the average amount of skill points all players are able to receive with none or +5 implants. 2,168,100 is what I came up with. My math might be very off, as it often is...

So long as CCP doesn't sell remaps I can see this as being fair. To all of those who wish to stay unique snow flakes. "Which just means everyone has a slightly different amount of sp in industry they don't want." Than I can agree with you to. I am just trying to put an idea forward that is slightly rational.

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I'm giving this a 5/10 because the timing is good, with all the supercap pro-elite pvpers whining about their "worthless ships".

It removes the point of having skills to begin with.
It removes the point of having attributes.
It removes variety and instead encourages FOTM and cookie-cutter setups.
It removes the uniqueness, history and "character" of your character.
It removes planning and choice and consequences.
It removes goal-setting, progression and any achievement in those areas.
It kills character trading.
It massively boosts older characters over new ones.
It introduces "catching up" as a concept in EVE and instantly makes it impossible to do.

I like this but it should be made to cost real money, and perhaps only usable once per character, or something that limits the mis-use.

Any redistribution of SP would break the game, more so than the gold ammo people talk about.

The primary currency of EVE is time, not isk. It is the time to learn a skill, the time it takes to mine an asteroid, the time it takes to research a blueprint, the time it takes to manufacture an item, the time it takes to ship an item, and so on. Even the time to get your ship blown up is part of the game.

In EVE, time is like a combination of money and experience points. Any redistribution of SP, be it on a set period or even just once, creates an exploit that breaks the true currency of this game and creates the opportunity to invalidate all the time investments that have been made.

People would argue that the game should forgive poor decisions, but this only highlights how valuable time is in EVE. People talk about isk/hr for missioning or other EVE endeavors. People talk about how many fights per hour. These are variable and dependent on the player unlike skill points.

Skill points have enough game breaking issuess already with implants being purchased with real money from the plex avenue. Adding redistribution or reallocation destroys skill points and EVE game mechanics completely.

The example of expolits given in the above posts are good and just the beginning if the original poster's suggestion were to happen. The hard work and time a player takes to become the advanced industrialist is destroyed. The dedication and time a player takes to be a pvp logi specialist is destroyed. So on, and so on.

I ask that any CCP personnel to please not introduce any SP reallocation into this game and to fight all suggestions of this internal or external.

Thanks

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What'd you guys have?

I wouldn't be averse to a SP redistribution as long as it contained an insanely high cost in time. I think something like a 1 time redistribution for a 50%SP cost made available after a year or so would actually be something nice. I know I would gladly pay even that harsh cost to get rid of some skills that I highly regret and am embarrassed by.

IF a PLEX costs 400MM ISK and that there are 43200 minutes to a 30 day time period....

AND assuming that a player only trains in skills that fully utilize a 30/30 attribute split (leading to 45 sp/minute)...

THEN a character can produce 1.944MM sp per month.

If you could freely sell them, then so long as the price was above 205.76 ISK per sp, then it would be profitable to not even play the character.

THEREFORE allowing the sale of skill points would massively inflate the price of PLEX. Past occasions where PLEX price has risen led to a slowdown in overall game activity, and higher subsequent prices for manufactured goods and ships.

However, if CCP allowed you to redistribute your own skill points at a 25% loss, then that would be a viable solution. Or if they introduced some kind of rate increasing booster, they'd open up a new industry.


EDIT - I should state my point - you can't and shouldn't allow selling of sp to other characters. It would cause chaos as ultra-wealthy individuals suddenly become gods, then all their alts become gods in turn.