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Is this game for morons only?

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Roisin Corcra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-19 10:58:15 UTC
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#2 - 2012-07-19 11:00:13 UTC
0/10

WoW is that way --->

EVE is not for you

etc etc etc
Aubrey Addams
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-19 11:02:19 UTC
its simple: look up dotlan evemaps and find a quieter system to mine, so others wont harhass you that much.
Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-07-19 11:02:47 UTC
10-20 mins? Just eject, warp a little further off. When they leave to try and come back and steal the ship, fly back, get in it and fly away.

Or try facebook games.

"Love is just a chemical, no matter the origin. We give it meaning by choice." - Eleanor Lamb
brainless moron
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-07-19 11:02:57 UTC
Yes, it is.
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-07-19 11:03:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabrina Solette
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.




Safest place in high-sec is to sit in a station, great for those playing the market.

But the answer is morons can spoil your day, it's allowed. But those people think they're doing newbies a service by showing them that EvE is tough whilst they notch up their killmails.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-19 11:03:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Roisin Corcra wrote:
If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here


When you undock from a station you are consenting to take part in pvp whether in 0.0, lowsec or highsec. There is no feature designed to prevent aggression from other players... other than docking.

I guess this is goodbye then.
Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
Fraternity.
#8 - 2012-07-19 11:05:10 UTC
Aubrey Addams wrote:
its simple: look up dotlan evemaps and find a quieter system to mine, so others wont harhass you that much.


Knowledge is power in this game - go read Forums, Blogs, hell anything you can browse to as there is a plethora of information out there to had. Where to start? Google is your friend.

Drop me a mail in game if you want and i will supply you with some nice Browser Bookmarks too.

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-19 11:05:10 UTC
Hi Roisin

Firstly it seems strange that people are able to attack you without consequence.

as a rule if someone attacks you without agression flags Concord will turn up in short order and destroy them.
What alot of greifing annoying people do is something called "can flipping" where they take the ore out of the can you are putting your mined ore into and create a new can next to it. then move all your ore from one to the other.

This is then THEIR can. If you then proceed to put some ore into it or try and take ore out you become agressed towards them and they can attack
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-07-19 11:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarah Schneider
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.

This is just the way Eve works, it's a sandbox, you can build your own sandcastle but nothing is going to stop someone from kicking your sandcastle and throw it on your face, seeing that you can do the same to them. To answer your question, yes, it's actually the game developers intention to build Eve the way it is.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler

Also no, the morons are the people who does nothing and refuse to adapt to the way Eve works and never learned to start being smart.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#11 - 2012-07-19 11:07:46 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
here is other better games out there, some are even free..


Then wth are you doing here then?
Bree Okanata
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-19 11:10:10 UTC
You are exaggerating with the time it takes to kill you. If you are in high sec, then they have to kill you fast or else they get CONCORDed. If you are in Low-Sec, it is your own fault you are dying.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-07-19 11:10:41 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun.


Sure. Leave hi-sec.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#14 - 2012-07-19 11:15:25 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun.


Sure. Leave hi-sec.


Yeah, just leave high sec, though you can expect to be ganked in the first jump or two by gate camping muppets who prey on those venturing into low sec. You people with your one line ill thought replies on this forum never cease to entertain me.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#15 - 2012-07-19 11:20:34 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever,


If they are not blown up by CONCORD within 'however many seconds it takes the space-po to show up', then it means you must have shot at them first.

Let me guess, someone flipped your can (you are jettisoning your ore into a can right ?), and you shot them or set your drones on them. Then they killed you.....

A few points:

1. go and learn what jettison means. Then think carefully next time you get a warning saying "are you sure you want to jettison your cargo"

2. You shot a can flipper. I dont think the flipper is the "moron" in this scenario.

3. Welcome to Eve.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Alara IonStorm
#16 - 2012-07-19 11:25:22 UTC
Get Drake, do Lvl 3 Missions, then get Raven do Lvl 4 Missions...

Be invincible!!! For the most part.
Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-19 11:27:41 UTC
Look me up in people and places > right click > hit "give money" > transfer about 90%. There, never bother again.

Got my Dust514 key...
KhaelaMensha Khaine
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-07-19 11:29:47 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun.


Sure. Leave hi-sec.


Yeah, just leave high sec, though you can expect to be ganked in the first jump or two by gate camping muppets who prey on those venturing into low sec. You people with your one line ill thought replies on this forum never cease to entertain me.


He didnt claim that it would be safer. He just answered the question - lowsec (and nullsec) have fewer noob griefers because combat is accepted as part of the risk of venturing there.

Eve has NEVER been about "I just want to mine in peace". You can get close if you find somewhere quiet enough or (even better) mine with friends and backup - but the game has always been about non-consensual pvp.

The OP would learn this lesson much more quickly in lowsec. If anything, hisec is misleading at times.....
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-07-19 11:32:10 UTC
Loosing a ship?

Is that what happens when you change the password inside of a force-field?

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#20 - 2012-07-19 11:34:13 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:

Yeah, just leave high sec, though you can expect to be ganked in the first jump or two by gate camping muppets who prey on those venturing into low sec. You people with your one line ill thought replies on this forum never cease to entertain me.


You are clueless aren't you.
I assume that you have never been outside of your theme park area.

Here's a clue - omnipresent gate camps are a myth repeated over and over by idiots, who just want to find another excuse to stay in the safety of the precious noob space ( yes all of hisec is noob space ).
There is a lot of entry points into both low and null that are NEVER camped ( you just need to make a few additional jumps - not for the lazy people ).

Null for the most part is nearly empty. Few days ago I made about 40 jumps from Fountain to Pure Blind and I only saw 4-5 people TOTAL.
Most of lowsec areas are also quite empty.

My friend used to mine in lowsec ( now moved to NPC null ) and he never lost a mining ship.
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