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The only problem with asking Chribba to run such a poll is that he isn't neutral in this matter.

He tweeted a few days ago that he can't get used to UI and wants the option to have the old one back.

And all your comments tell me that you do not understand the problem. It is the UI. I tried it at 22.05. but it was and currently IS terrible. I log in but do not play. I try this crap again and again but it still keeps beeing useless crap.
Not playing does not mean not logging in or trying.

You are a CCP. You should be able to find out what I am doing (if it is the right UI). Now try to find out how often I logged in after 22.05.2012 and furthermore find out what I have done with this time.

If you like to play with statistics please have a look at the amount of unsubbed accounts since Inferno. Sure you can claim that there are other reasons to cancel an account. But maybe it could have something to do with this UI. To be fair: I do not know the exact amount of unsubbed accounts.

First, I LIKE the new Unified Inventory. The issue is that the user friendliness is very low at the moment in terms of easy and consistent.

Second, there is a SERIOUSLY annoying defect with double clicking a container to access it. It opens your Ships Cargo instead of the container in a new window. Has this been acknowledged yet?

You need to be focusing on reducing the number of clicks it takes to get to somewhere. Looking at your setup, it might seem it's less clicks, but it's not.

In the right click contextual menu an "Open Cargohold in New Window" option next to "Open Cargohold" would go a LONG way for some people

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THREE SIMPLE THINGS TO MAKE THE UNIFIED INVENTORY LESS OF A HASSLE :

ONE. Collapsed by Default

Please, all the hangars are always "uncollapsed" when you open the inventory or expand the side inventory. It is REALLY inconvenient to have to close all of the "Ship hangar", "Item Hangar", "POS Stuff", etc to get to where you want to go. Just let them always be collapsed, and I'll open the ones I want. Remembering the setting may seem "smart", but when I have to go to another part of my inventory, it sucks.

EXAMPLE : I have over 50 ships and I can't get to the item hangar containers easily because the ship hangar is on a level above that. So I MUST collapse the ship hangar to get to my item hangar. Stop that. You're not doing us a favor of saving us any clicking.


TWO. Double Clicked My Ship, ARGH!

Double Clicking on a Ship you're in the window does nothing. Let it open the cargo of the ship I'm in when I double click it. Also, let me SHIFT+Double Click on a ship I'M NOT IN to open carge and don't let me get into the ship. This way I can open ships from my ship hangar with just a double click + shift

EXAMPLE : I always try and open my ship hangar by double clicking on the Ship, or another ship. instead I get INTO the ship, which is really frustrating because now I have to find my other ship to get back into it.


THREE. Be Consistent

Double Clicking On One thing Opens a new window, double clicking on another opens it in the side menu, double clicking on a ship gets you into the ship, shift clicking this opens it with a side panel, double clicking that opens it without one. You've gotten so caught up between what the players "want" and your initial plan, that we're in the middle of stuff just acting weird still.

EXAMPLE : Double clicking a container in my Item Hangar opens it in a new window. I thought that's why we have the unified Inventory? SO I don't HAVE to open a new window. But now, shift double click doesn't just move into the container and opens a new window WITH a side panel. So, I'm just scratching my head because you've just confused the hell out of what and how I'm supposed to use this thing. Pick a plan and find ways around the design challenges without having 3 different functions for the same thing.


This will go a LONG WAY to a less hassling experience in the UI. There is a lot of other things to do, but these should be pretty easy to implement in the next iteration while you figure out some of the more in depth things to do.

Can we please have a UI Tutorial Video after most of the major changes have been made?

hey wait.... I have an idea.... one second

http://eve-files.com/dl/255291

Bam, there.

OK this is classic Microsoft philosophy. I used to work for MS and this is a major reason why I refuse to ever again.

Microsoft joked about this internally as "Those are not bugs, they are undocumented features".

If you are testing a feature or product and it is full of bugs you have two roads you can take. You can kick it back to be fixed or sometimes you have no choice but to document the issues and let it go through.

In this case if you KNEW the system had bugs (and how could you not) and you "had" to release it, you should include these KNOWN issues in your release notes / dev blog. This will save at least some irritation on our parts and reduce the "spam" from us the "vocal minority".



Now onto a separate point: I am willing to accept that as QA it is not your place to speak to design / release decisions. Fine. But when the questions / rants coming from the "vocal minority" (can you tell that I find that insulting) are primarily related to this then it would A) be a good idea for you not to try and address them if you can't / won't answer them and far more importantly B) someone who CAN speak to these issues SHOULD get on and answer them.

As many others have posted, those of us who do post here, speak to a LOT of people. I know that every single day I get on my TS server and hear people in my alliance swearing and cursing like sailors about this new UI. I hear the same from our allies and friends in game. I have yet to run into even one person in game who is not severely irritated by this UI. Most people in my alliance know I have posted here as I have told them and sent the links in game so they could read. This eliminates the need for most of them to post as my feedback is a combination of everything I hear from them and directly experience myself.


Finally, we get irritated and mob like when our questions are ignored or not answered or when we perceive we are being marginalized or condescended to. If you, or soundwave, or any other dev can not speak to some of the PRIMARY issues and questions being raised here, please get someone who can speak to those things to get on and respond. In the absence of GOOD information we have only ourselves and the information we post to work with and feed off of.

I agree completely with this. Had this been implemented FIRST for ASSETS and then MAYBE later for everything else it would have been a lot better. Also if we had the "new" without losing the core "old" features (direct buttons, static compact windows etc) the rage would be far less.

This new UI COULD have been a major win for CCP. It is however, most certainly not right now.

cause ccp are retards that use resources on things that aren't broken, then manage to break it and deny there is an issue.


numerous issues have been pointed out but CCP still prefers ******* with useless things.


in the meantime .... and according to eve offline, numbers keep dropping.

It appears as though your UI is preventing me from opening any cans after I have started the warp process (but not yet entered warp). Please look into this.

Sounds like CCP adheres to the very old corporate tradition of "Nobody complained so everything is great".

How about putting in a poll on whether you like the new UI or not, in the login screen where the annoying advertising is.
You get a good result there as you get your "clients'" feedback on the change.
Then u can spin the results as you see fit :)