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Not even close. I have 4 labs, component/ammo/drone/equipment arrays, corp hangar and 3 ship arrays at one tower. When I'm working, since I don't want to have to constantly close and open arrays, I generally have at least 6 arrays open at one time, moving things around to do jobs. Old system, no problem. Even opening them was a breeze. If I had to change a division on an array, 1 click, or even just drag/drop on that tab. Fast and simple.

Alongs comes the UI. You guys want us to work from a tree with 1 inventory window at a time. If I expand 6 arrays in the tree to show all the divisions, it's taller than my screen. So I'd have to click-shrink arrays to keep things where I can see them or scroll the tree up and down to keep both arrays visible. Plus I can only view one inventory at a time in the window. Sometimes I want to see what I've got in 2 or more at the same time to make a decision on what I am working at doing.

Now as I said before, if you have cans in your cargo, you can open an inventory for your ship cargo, and one for each can thru the bloodly shift-double-click nonsense. Get rid of the damn 'Shift' part of that so I don't have to use both hands to do something that only took one hand.... I can't count how many times I've double-clicked a container expecting it to launch a window, only to get pissed cuz it opened over the other inventory i already had open... Hell, put back functionality on the right-click menu so it launches a separate window when you 'access storage' from it and you'll stop alot of my grief.

But you still have to play with the damn tree to get into different divisions. Eats up alot more screen space than tabs across the top of the inventory.

So down to the TL;DR...

1. Right Click menu, 'access storage' launches it's own window instead of stuffing it into your current open inventory.

2. Replace Shift-Double-click (and shift-click) with the industry standard double-click to open an inventory in a new window.

3. Add an option so we can toggle on that we have tabs for divisions on the top of an inventory. Leave em on the tree too, I don't care since i minimize the trees. I just want the faster access the tabs provided.

These 3 items alone would make things much easier and faster for me. Hmmm... Basically restores functionality that you took away. You also get to keep your tree that you think is the bomb, and I can basically turn it off and get back to working efficiently.

Now a bonus would be an option to turn off the isk estimated value to reduce query lag time. Never matches anything I can find anyhow. OR, what would actually make sense, is that I could setup the isk estimator to use a specific market (and how it works, hi/low/median against buy/sell prices). THAT would be way cool!

As several people have said, tabbed view is a much better solution for corp hangars.

Tree view takes a lot of vertical and horizontal space (assuming you actually want to read the labels). This is a huge problem especially if you want to keep the window small in size.

Having to scroll though the tree to find something instead of being able to always see the tab you are looking for at the top is not the same functionality. It requires more work from the user and is a bad design. There is a reason all modern web browsers use tabs and not trees. It is easier to see what you have open and get to it without more work.

Are you guys going to consider a slimmed down version of the window without needless things like the item count/price, double menu rows at the top, etc etc?

I am fine with it being an 'in-space only thing' but with all the nice changes you folks have done I still find it really annoying as a PvPer that I can't easily access my drugs or watch my ammo/cap booster usage without having to be distracted by a bunch of text and interface that doesn't apply to the task at hand.

It can be optional, it can be limited to cargo hold or in space, whatever makes it easiest for you but PLEASE consider a minimalistic approach for those that need or want it.

dragging a stack onto another stack in cargohold now always tells "no more units in source location" and doesnt allow to drag directly onto another stack even if there's sufficient cargo space. Previously it correctly clamped the number of units to max cargo space. This is broken now.

Goliath,

you are are correct indeed. We do not see how we should be using the UI tree as intended by CCP. Please release a devblog or youtube video on how we should using the UI tree.

From my own personal experience i am finding it somewhat troblesome trying to arrange the 100 or so containers I have in my corp hangars into a way that will make the UI tree workable for me. I'm am trying to adapt with some sucess. Allbeit little sucess.

Just a little bit more info:

I run a ressearch & copying POS where I make copies of lots of different BPO's to sell. Let me take one of these as an example.

Rifters
I currently make 1 run / 5 run / 10 run / 15 run / 20 run and 30 run copies to sell on contracts.This equates to 6 containers. If i didnt then i'd have no way of telling what run a BPC was unless i individually clicked onto each bpc before moving the bpc from my POS to a station and creating a contract. As mentioned the current solution to this is I have labelled containers. Lots of containers. In such a myirad of corporate hangars a single UI tree is navigated to the BPC location before dragging what I want to where I want. This allows me to create contracts of mulitpal BPCs.

Each POS mod has 7 hangars and I've got POS 10 mods to choose from. Yes 70 folders each expanding to the containers held in them. Considering that the only way currently to open a container inside a corp hangar is through the UI tree (The shift+click does not open the container -bug report already sent in). I am left with little option other than trying to negoitate several UI windows while remembering to try to shift+click my way thought the tree.

Stressful I tell you.

Creative Solution

Allow me to be able to open both my POS mods and containers contained within with double clicks (not shift+clicks) in different UI windows. The containers can then be opened and the mod dropped into where I need them before I package them off to contracts.


Edit: I don't know why I've posted here as I've already unsubbed. I'm getting seriously stresed at a computer game, and i didn't even get a little annoyed with Incarna (3+yrs of playing ..now what game will I play.... sigh)

way more entrys than screen height. oh im not quiting, just letting 3 accounts of the 6 die, i already cut back from 12. to much effort to use the ui now. i have enough isk to pvp and plex till eve dies. so no, my stuffs is my stuffs.

its a shame though, industry was something taht i enjoyed doing as the background part of my game. i just can not face trying to shift click my way though 100's of hanger divisions

They won't realize it. They are still too confident in all of their responses that the problem is us, not their UI.

The only way to make progress on this is unsubscriptions. I regret that I sub in 6 and 12 month blocks.

Never again. I don't do it with any other software, but it just seemed efficient to do it with Eve. From now on, they earn my subs month to month, or they lose the income. I would rather pay $50 more a year and be able to save that $50 by quitting early if they bork the game, than to pay them in advance and then end up with situations like this that make me miserable trying to play the game.

I appreciate Goliath posting, but like everyone who has posted except Soundwave, I don't think he understands the issues at all. And while I appreciate he probably takes pride in, and tries to do a good job, the fact is, Q&A was absolutely miserable on this major change. They completely missed the boat.

Quoted for the god's honest truth!

im pissed about all of them really, the ones this thing mostly screws is the ones that have to deal with many corp hangers at once. so 3 accounts 9 toons

but, have you tried bouncing caps about recently, the ******* ui thing refreshes every 10 sec's and its anoying as hell. and recenters itself with every jump, all i want is 2 windows stacked, one hanger and one fuel bay open, how bloody hard is that to achive?

OK ... Here is where the disconnect is occuring and the point you especially Goliath at least APPEAR to be missing:

CCP and particularly you Goliath are of the opinion that the new tree view is much better. As such you feel it is important to defend it and try and compromise enough to keep it and try and make us happy.

The EVE player base OMFG HATE THIS UI more than pretty much anything I can recall in my 8+ years playing this game. As a result we are raging about this.

Are there SOME players who are ok with the new UI? Yes. Are they the majority? Not even close.

What this boils down to is that you have made a design decision that makes sense to you and only you (you = CCP). You are attached to this new design without giving any information at all as to why you are so unreasonably attached to it. If there are 50 features in the pipe that require this new inventory UI to work then tell us that. But when you get a massive pile of feedback from the test server and weeks of feedback and in some cases just blind rage and you offer no justification for A) why this NEEDED to be done and B) Why it can't be the way the majority of us want it you are only going to continue to lose hearts and minds.

Now I believe that it was not your intent to make your quoted statement above sound like this but to us, the players this is what we hear when we read this:

"We did this thing because one of us thought it was a good idea. We got attached to the idea and ran with it and we are not looking back damn the consequences. You can yell and scream and kick all you want and while we will tweak a few things for you to make it suck slightly less, we are not going to actually listen to you or give you what you want. Here is some lube, grab your ankles and learn to like it because this is going to happen and there is nothing you can do to stop it."

I am not trying to attack you or anyone else I am trying to point out what I see as a significant disconnect between CCP and it's paying customers. This UI would be AWESOME for the player INVENTORY screen allowing us to see all our junk everywhere in game including containers, ship holds, etc. It is IDEAL for that purpose. It is not however ideal, useful, etc for day to day operations. I have read all of the threadnaughts, I have posted "constructive" feedback, I have read all of the dev blogs and dev responses.

I believe you want to deliver awesomeness. I believe you THINK you are delivering awesomeness. The issue is you do not appear to be willing to accept that we do not agree with your definition of awesomeness.

CCP has built a great game that truly has no equal. We the players would not get so enraged if we were not so emotionally invested in this game that for many of us is an integral part of our lives. Please take a step back and realize that we are not just internet rage trolling and that as a whole, we really do know what we are talking about on this subject.