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Who ever made the new UI should at least have taken one look at the old system. When entering a station ship hangar and inventory and ship cargohold should be open, at least if they where open when leaving the station. This is a basic requirement for mission runners. Miner might want to skip the ship hangar, but then may wish to change to a hauler. How can you forget to let the UI to remember the last state of those windows?

Why did you fix the system in the first place? The old system was not broken and working perfectly for most players? If some people wanted modifications / improvements why not simply modify / improve the existing system?

Why on top of the clunkyness of the new UI does it take so much time to load?
As a Miner I just want to unload my stuff and return to the astroid belt asap.
As a mission runner i just want to modify my setup or change a new ship between missions, now it's shift clicking all the time to get what i need. During missions i want to setup my ship for a quick repair and then back to battle setup. This takes ages now.
Make the price info optional!

MOST WHY of all, why did you IGNORE SISI FEED BACK? Do you want to **** us off after the last time you f***d up and after wich you promised to listen to us in the future? In what or whose future if I may dare ask?

Do not fix working things. Fix broken ones like the Invention system which takes a dozen or so clicks to start one. Then you cant even repeat for the next invention but have to start all over again. I am still sorry for the time I spend training for that - getting pissed off and turning away from invention took much less time than training for it.

If you insist on keeping the new UI (as you will no doubt do ) then:
1. Let the system remember in which state the windows where when you leave a station. Make them open again with the same size, location and setting when redocking. Would be nice if cargo hold stays open when jumping a gate too. Even better if this would not cause the items in the cargohold to reorganize - I like to keep my EMP L top left and the missiles below!
2. When opening the tree view it should expand out of the the window not into it. This reduces the space inside the window. Some windows are kept small so they dont block to much space (especially when ouside the station) making the contents of the tree view unreadable and the contens of the window almost inacessible. So to keep the original size of the window the tree view needs to expand out of the window as long as it has the focus and retract automatically when loosing the focus. Enable us to further extend the tree view sideways (make it wider) so it is easy to read - which should also be remebered by each window that has a treeview. If the Window is on the left side the tree view should expand to the right of the window. This must not cause any window to move or resize!
3. Clicking anything in the tree view should open the item in a seperate window by default. An option of stacking the item with other windows (-> TABS) and one to open it in the same window should be available and too should be remembered.
4. If items open in the same window implement a BACK button (and maybe an "up one level" button).
5. Top and Bottom of the Window: Make each entry there optional and remeber for each single Window.
6. Make available a window to be used like the clip board in windows systems, where you can drop ships and items to drag them out to other windows (copy-paste like function).

Enough for today. I want to play now - that is shift click

The new missile effects look good.
Can I trade those back in for the old UI again?
Pretty missiles effects(even for a Caldari missile spammer such as myself) doesn't even come close to the loss of functionality and plain annoyance at the new cumbersome and laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggyyyyyyyy inventory.

Massive Net Negative on this patch so far.

This feedback thread has one, resoundingly clear message -

THIS UI IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT.

The player base has spoken clearly:

ROLL IT BACK or at the very least make the windows PERSISTENT so we are not wasting time clicking ridiculous inventory trees in multiple windows.

We await a clear response.

Recent patch notes: http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

I know defenders were only used by a small number of players but that doesn't make the stealth nerf of them a non-issue. If nothing else the entire community should be scared by the fact that CCP chose to make this change with no prior announcement or reasoning given, that it simply appeared on the patch notes.

Never change a running system.
Want old inventory windows back.

... and the complaints about the "new and improved" UI continue to flood in ...

I thought I was reading old posts, but I see a large number of new posts about this issue, even after all of the tuning and performance tweaks. This does not bode well.

I've been spending more time on SiSi than I have in TQ trying to adapt and find ways to use the new UI efficiently. I have been unsuccessful.

The player consensus truly tells it all in plain generic language: laggy, inefficient, and frustrating.

At this point, the specifics are almost irrelevant because the UI fails in so many areas. But looks like we are stuck with it, that and the painful process of satisfying everyone's complaints based upon how CCP prioritizes the "to do list".

You can literally see the inefficient code when stacking items in a container : it fires hot triggers that activate the subroutines to display changes to cargohold-contents-volume as it handles the array processing needed to sort the list, i.e., stack all items. This could be a background process disconnected from GUI mechanics and hot triggers, which all take time to execute, thus slowing everything down badly. I guess I use this example, because during a sort/merge operaiton, the total volume in the cargohold remains unchanged, and yet, the system displays the cargohold volume changes incurred during the sort/merge operation. It is stupidly inefficient.

Anyway, it's a mess, and not getting better fast enough to satisfy most of the players. CCP already knows what's wrong. Specifics at this point are almost irrelevant.

I thought I'd give the UI system a try, and the more I try it the less I like it.

1.) Randomly closes PI "hangars" when transferring materials to/from planet.

2.) All the complaints listed above.

The only thing that makes ANY sense to me is that CCP is looking to REMOVE mining in the near future, to perhaps "Streamline resources" by not loading all the objects in asteroid belts any more.

Of course, they can't just suddenly remove all the belts in the game so instead they're making mining (and related activities) SO INSANELY INFURIATING that all the miners will just quit and then they can remove the belts and (hopefully) nobody will notice.

(Both the "improved" inventory system and the deployment during a major miner grief "operation" to make the odds of getting ganked even higher.)

What does this REALLY mean?

POS will go offline for lack of fuel, Nitrogen is already impossible to BUY in Empire.

Goodbye players researching/copying/ inventing on their Blueprints without waiting MONTHS in a que.

Goodbye players actually building ships/modules/etc because no one will be able to get the much needed minerals to do so, unless Industrial players are really lucky at reprocessing LOOT.

Goodbye Exploration and Wormholes because nobody will bother/be able to build probes any more.

Eventually, it will just be players flying around shooting at each other in rookie ships and using on board scanners to try and find anomalies. "Improves" everything doesn't IT?

The massive Patch list in the latest patch should be a red flag to everybody. Wonder what else got broke in the fix.

Helpful HINT, CCP. When your TEST PLAYERS, who ARE IN NO WAY COMPENSATED FOR THEIR TIME, tell you something, LISTEN. Don't just "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead." You WILL regret it.

Not sure this has been mentioned.

Stack All function in Station Container no longer works.