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EVE Online: Inferno - Feedback thread

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Makaganti
Doomheim
#761 - 2012-05-24 06:32:28 UTC
dear CCP Ginger boss who never listens

9 out of every 10 eve players hate the inventory window unified crap 2 out of 10 are quitting eve how about replacing the Ginger with stupid ideas. hey just throwing it out there Twisted

With Unity there is Power

Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#762 - 2012-05-24 06:38:30 UTC
ATTENTION a new dev blog with the ability to bring your comments to CCP is started HERE

Write in this new one and bring CCP to change the UI.
It would be nice if someone will bring this new link into every new page of this thread.
Thank you guys. Bring proposals to CCP. Lets work together. Smile
Aron Fox
Tranquillian Imperial Navy
#763 - 2012-05-24 06:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aron Fox
Im no against changes but if something is allready working then why fix something that isnt broke. I am ofcourse talking about the UI. This made Item Managment to a hazzle, It is not because its new and that would make it the reason why people dont like it not it have not improved anything. and if it improved something it basicly fixed problems by creating new ones that nver existed before. one thing that is my major concern is that now in order to manage your inventory in space you need atleast a quarter of the screen with the dam UI. and that is with a very high resolution. for all my years of eve playing I only needed 1 small windown in the bottom left corner of the screen. But this is taking in-space item management to a new redicelous level
Diverse Diver
TMAB Holdings
#764 - 2012-05-24 06:45:21 UTC
Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno 1.0.1

EVE Voice, Mail & Chat

Fixed a problem where players didn't correctly leave chat channels, leading to server-side performance problems.


Not true as I have just logged in and members who are offline are still showing in the Corps chat.

When you make a statement please ensure that it is factually correct before posting as corrected in the patch notes.

DD
suezyantilis
lazy free loaders inc.
#765 - 2012-05-24 06:46:00 UTC
Ugh i HATE the new invatory you put in eve - i can not do 1/4 of what i could before - i have to jump back and forth to set up my fits to put into a ship and it takes 8x longer to do so - i am an older player and love eve , but if you must screw it up all the time with new untested biulds then i guess i'll have to stop playing and find some other way to stay mind actave - i cant get around so i play eve almost 14hrs in a day it is the one thing i have looked to , to keep my sanity - please stop messing with a great game that makes one think- please put the invatory back the way it was - thanks Oops
Cathallo
Bamboo Developments
#766 - 2012-05-24 07:08:47 UTC
Just sad really. A load of sparkly stuff that just makes the menial tasks of Eve much harder that most people didn't ask for or need. Then we get sadder when useful stuff gets broken, then fixed, then breaks agan.

For most people the reality is you make a bit less out of many areas of the game, still most people couldn't give a rat's ass about Factional Warfare, the clickfest just gets more frustrating and you have no idea who is actually in local.

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
Albert Einstein

Serenety Steel
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#767 - 2012-05-24 07:26:08 UTC
Diverse Diver wrote:
Patch notes for EVE Online: Inferno 1.0.1

EVE Voice, Mail & Chat

Fixed a problem where players didn't correctly leave chat channels, leading to server-side performance problems.


Not true as I have just logged in and members who are offline are still showing in the Corps chat.

When you make a statement please ensure that it is factually correct before posting as corrected in the patch notes.

DD



This^^

Just logged in after going to bed 8 hrs ago and my alt is still showing up in corp chat after 8+ hrs. great patch CCP!

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maxta destroyer
Dark Venom.
#768 - 2012-05-24 07:39:32 UTC
Hope this is the right place to write this..

Great patch so far except for the new inventory system, i can see a lot of work coding this has been undertaken so to throw it out would be off the cards and dont get me wront the idea behind it is brilliant and some of the features are nice like the estimated value of each containers,

now the bad side,
1) I have no way to open multiple windows with hot keys, you have broken a realy fast way to load ammo and drones.

2) Do we need to see the inventory system when we are looting and salvaging a mission, i mean thats just confusing.

3) Where is my ship hanger that ive gottent to know and love, would like to see that back in the left pain so i can dock up fast and swap to a pvp ship for that neut that just bumped in system, oh wait ive got to swap drones dam now this is taking too long and ive lost my window to catch my neut target, ( also takes a long time to load the ship bay now)

4)I now cannot acces my carriers ship maintence bay when in not sitting in my carrier, and i cant click on my ship and open the ship maintence bay in station( havent tested out of station). also same for fuel and corp hangers!

Hope this dosnt fall on deaf ears as there are a lot of ppl that feel the same way about this new unified inventory system,

Apart from that great work guys!
Cavaros
Tactically Armed Vanguard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#769 - 2012-05-24 07:51:22 UTC
Well were to start...

First off the local channel has gone all to hell (again) even though CCP fixes it yesterday... in 0.0 space thats VERY confusing, because the reds , the blues and the greens are all online although they are not.

Its is impossible to play with more than 1 toon at any gven time bacause off the "new and better" inventory system.

There are alot of really good features in this patch missiles etc. BUT because of the inventory issues and the local channel screw ups, I cant really enjoy them. It would be really good if I could have the option of adding the new inventory if i wanted to, and not being forced to use something that does not work. you (CCP) should tested it better on the test server instead of launching it now.
Alusz NIVEN
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#770 - 2012-05-24 08:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alusz NIVEN
For the first time since 2008 I have been playing EVE, I am thinking to quit definitely.
Just because of this inventory crap. Nothing to add.
Put the old system back.
Tastykle
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#771 - 2012-05-24 08:29:43 UTC
Hello, just stopping by to lol @ ppl "quitting" b'cos of inventory Big smile
Endeavour Starfleet
#772 - 2012-05-24 08:39:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Makaganti wrote:
dear CCP Ginger boss who never listens

9 out of every 10 eve players hate the inventory window unified crap 2 out of 10 are quitting eve how about replacing the Ginger with stupid ideas. hey just throwing it out there Twisted


2 out of 10 quitting?

Ya you pulled that straight out of your ass and yet expect CCP to take your post as anything more than a dumb whine post.

2 out of 10 have not announced their departure from eve much less actually left. The vast majority of " I QUIT " posts are fake and those that actually do come back within 6 months.

How about some helpful ideas instead of lies in the future eh?

Alusz NIVEN wrote:
For the first time since 2008 I have been playing EVE, I am thinking to quit definitely.
Just because of this inventory crap. Nothing to add.
Put the old system back.


Get a clue. The old system is NOT coming back.

So instead of wasting a forum post on that fake leave post. How about posting some ideas?
Jesspa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#773 - 2012-05-24 08:45:19 UTC
Before Inferno, when I created a private contract, as long as I typed the recipient's name exactly correctly, I wouldn't be asked to then choose which player I meant from a list of players with similar names (it's quite unusual). Now when I do so, I am asked to choose from a list of 173 names which bear some resemblance to the other player's name. I could understand this if the suggested names contained the string representing my recipient's name exactly, but they don't, they're just 'similar'. Since the name of the guy I mean is about halfway down that list of 173 names, it's pretty annoying!

And yes, please put our active ship back in the ship hangar. Taking it away doesn't make sense to me.
Casandra Barton
Barton Technologies
#774 - 2012-05-24 08:56:12 UTC
I've played this game in 2006....
I remember inventory being stuck to the station services pane. You had to flip back and forth between ships and items and that got annoying. Then you gave us the option to detach them and have separate windows for them ..... Brilliant.
Years go by and a few hiatus later and I see that you have nifty buttons on the neocom for them now... this i like... a week later you come out with this unified inventory... wow .. kinda like it kinda don't... but what in you ever ******* minds did you think recombining the ship window and item inventory windows again was a step forward is beyond me. CCP had this fixed years ago.

Now what i like about the unified inventory:
- I can sort out my ammo
- make my own presets fairly easily *note that you have to re-close the custom filter screen every time otherwise your editing the same filter and overwriting it.
- Seeing my est. inventory price is fairly cool

What i dislike.. aka .. needs to be fixed asap:
- Unified inventory needs to be for ONLY in stations. If your in space and keep a window open for cap chargers this over sized window is very bad for a lower resolution monitor that has little space to begin with.
- Ship hangar needs to have a completely separate window pane again. I cant stand looking through any interface that is in "List: mode. I read somewhere your thinking of adding the ship pics back to the description and that is a step in the right direction .. just not the complete one that is needed.
- What i want to see is this unified inventory screen to have tabs at the top... and these tabs i can drag out and have em as separate windows. This would help with my station management so i can constantly see one window while viewing another. I very much hate to have only one window to rule them all. I keep my own stuff organized and have an easier time seeing it all at once than having to dig through a list for the right folder over and over and over and over again. It is getting old and frustrating having to repetitiously dig though the interface.

As far as any other improvements go......
- I like missiles launchers on my ships, it looks amazing. Some missions i run have npc's that still shoot missiles out of thin ... erm "air" but the flight and impact still looks great .. +5 awesome for this.
- The improvements to war dec looks good. havnt tried that out but looks good.
- All Stealth Bomber visual upgrade.... I LOVE THEM. Beautiful... Now just fix all minmatar ships to match the new Reaper and Tornado visual style would be great... no beyond great... absolutely freaking super amazing if u made all minmatar race ships T1 and T2 look better and not made with rusty ladders and more like the tornado visual style.
- The new armor module is very neat. Good idea. The low slot drone mod..... its about time....
- DO NOT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY make missiles be effected by tracking disrupters. This is a bad move game-play wise if you do. Would over power that particular module and make it must have on every fit. A make missiles faze out.

I'm not canceling my account again any time soon, in fact I want to make an alt so I can stealth bomb again. But please don't make my very recent renewed interest in EVE a drudgery due to a theoretically inventory improvment that is in fact a roughly 5 year step backwards and half step forward.
WolfSchwarzMond
Doomheim
#775 - 2012-05-24 08:58:58 UTC
Local and corp channels are STILL BUGGED. Please fix this.
Also the new inventory LAGS like hell if you are using mutiple windows like Salvaging or Mining.
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#776 - 2012-05-24 09:01:27 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:

We're all on team Super Friends, responsible for new modules, War Dec system, War Reports, and Kill Reports


So nobody is responsible for the inventory? That explains..

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies

Inotaahole Really
FUNK'S EXPERIMENTAL CORP
#777 - 2012-05-24 09:11:30 UTC
The unified inventory window is not an improvement. It adds many clicks, and time, and mouse accuracy issues. It is frustrating to use and makes using GSC's in a cargohold not worth the effort. Right now for me, the unified inventory window is causing Eve to be - not worth the effort.
Uridium Silo
HamSteak Yummm
#778 - 2012-05-24 09:14:27 UTC
i dont think its ever going to be reverted. just going to have to get used to it... although it is a f**king pain
Linkert
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#779 - 2012-05-24 09:28:01 UTC
The new missle effects giving extreme lag when zoomed in :S

When you zoom out you cant see your missles fly like before!

Regards Linkert
Aria Wolfe
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#780 - 2012-05-24 09:41:55 UTC
So I didn't see much in this thread about the nerfing of frigates. After all these years were they really unbalanced? Now they are useless really, at least for how I like to fly.

The Inventory sux. That has been said already, but will they actually listen & change it back? I doubt it, it would have already happened.

Fanfest 2012 was lame. Just wanted to mention that.

Like others I find it difficult to want to play. The classic inventory was easy to use in station and looting wrecks/containers and with capital ships & POSes. Now it is a ***** to do anything. And NO it is not something most of us will adapt to.

Summer is here and I don't mind taking a break from eve until they fix this issue of playability or we're going to shoot up Jita!