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EVE Online: Inferno - Feedback thread

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ScabRunner
State War Academy
Caldari State
#741 - 2012-05-24 04:03:23 UTC
The new unimproved inventory windowing system is a big excrement sandwich, argentinosaurus size.
much love
scab
Lynx Iberian
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#742 - 2012-05-24 04:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Lynx Iberian
CCP Guard wrote:
EVE Online: Inferno has been deployed. TQ is up and docking requests are being accepted.

This thread is for general feedback about Inferno, for any issues you encounter, please report them in the issues thread so our devs can take a look.



My general feedback is that the new inventory system sucks as it is now. At least let us close the thing so it doesn't constantly open whenever we enter a new system or when we dock and undock.
Endeavour Starfleet
#743 - 2012-05-24 04:13:16 UTC
ScabRunner wrote:
The new unimproved inventory windowing system is a big excrement sandwich, argentinosaurus size.
much love
scab


That is not feedback. It is just crap you decided to vent on here without anything they can use to improve it.

crzymonkey wrote:
Im thinking that mabey the team that built this unified inventory system should have actually played the game to see how badly it screws everything up.....mabey looks good on paper,,,not so much in game...


Same thing not helpful at all.

SiirLong wrote:
First of all What the **** where you thinking? How is this easier? I can't drag and drop crap.

I've liked some of your updates but this looks like you just made an update just to say you did something.

Please change this back, we've already lost towers, ships, etc to glitches.

Also can we get refunds for account cancellations? Fix this or lose your customers period.


Same thing.... Can i haz....... Nope actually I dont want your stuff because I doubt it has any value when you think you will rage quit.

khmervareman wrote:
unifited inventory or i can stop to play this game ..not just me alot of players was confuse


Wut? How is this post going to help CCP improve the system?
ScabRunner
State War Academy
Caldari State
#744 - 2012-05-24 04:25:05 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
ScabRunner wrote:
The new unimproved inventory windowing system is a big excrement sandwich, argentinosaurus size.
much love
scab


That is not feedback. It is just crap you decided to vent on here without anything they can use to improve it.

crzymonkey wrote:
Im thinking that mabey the team that built this unified inventory system should have actually played the game to see how badly it screws everything up.....mabey looks good on paper,,,not so much in game...


Same thing not helpful at all.

SiirLong wrote:
First of all What the **** where you thinking? How is this easier? I can't drag and drop crap.

I've liked some of your updates but this looks like you just made an update just to say you did something.

Please change this back, we've already lost towers, ships, etc to glitches.

Also can we get refunds for account cancellations? Fix this or lose your customers period.


Same thing.... Can i haz....... Nope actually I dont want your stuff because I doubt it has any value when you think you will rage quit.

khmervareman wrote:
unifited inventory or i can stop to play this game ..not just me alot of players was confuse


Wut? How is this post going to help CCP improve the system?


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you emo rage, but it is a **** sandwich. Please review the previous 27 pages for helpful feedback to get this back on track.
Endeavour Starfleet
#745 - 2012-05-24 04:27:00 UTC
So with many pages of some feedback you decided to post your unhelpful post I quoted anyway?

Tell me how is that supposed to help CCP at this point? They aren't going back to the old so why not give them ideas they can use?
RaVeN Revenge
RaVeN Alliance
#746 - 2012-05-24 04:37:26 UTC
Excrement sandwich is a very nice and civil way to describe the new "feature".

+1 to that poster for being nice to the RETARDS WHO IMPLEMENTED this "feature"

-10 for the app itself
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#747 - 2012-05-24 04:40:50 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
So with many pages of some feedback you decided to post your unhelpful post I quoted anyway?

Tell me how is that supposed to help CCP at this point? They aren't going back to the old so why not give them ideas they can use?


It's suppose to show them how many people are pissed off at this stupid thing. There are DOZENS if not HUNDREDS of posts detailing and spelling out EXACTLY whats wrong with the goddamn UI. Get off your high horse. CCP knows what the problems are, they know how we'd want them fixed, they know how it should be, but they ignored all that. So all these people rageposting hopefully get their goddamn attention because constructive feedback is not!

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MEDERAL
Steele Conquest
#748 - 2012-05-24 04:41:11 UTC
i think its ruff right now becuse its new changes, give it some time. took me a little bit to work it out, but its good. great job on the changes to the missles. But i have to say I love what you did with manticore it new style is very cool ( big thumb up)
Domore
Pan Galactic Corporation
#749 - 2012-05-24 04:49:43 UTC
I have to say the new items system is quite confusing, Though I will learn it due to me being an eveaholic. It is however my HOPE that CCP continues to refine it because right now it feels as though it was thrown together with a "look!!!! we did something asides missles and the funky OP war dec system"

But like I said, I will learn to use it like everything else in eve.



Here's to hoping,

~Dom
Tesla Grass
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#750 - 2012-05-24 04:50:38 UTC
Been trying to make this new system work for me, and tweak the way I do a few things. Everything was going okish until I decided to go and salvage a mission.
My EVE started jittering as soon as I opened 2 wrecks at once as your Inventory system loaded. Then after "loot all" it jumps you too your cargohold. So I leave it open and just start hitting "open" on each incoming wreck in the zone and listen and watch my EVE grind to a halt, having to load all this **** with each "open" is wasteful. The Noctis is a beast of an OP'd ship, and now you have built and inventory system that cant keep up with a ship. Rather painful really.

You need to give us the option to individually set an open place for all windows like we had before. Having every new "container" forced to load the entire inventory window is a **** idea.

Hopefully in the next few weeks you guys can turn this thread into an awesome inventory system that is as adaptable for all of us, good luck.
Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster
#751 - 2012-05-24 04:52:15 UTC
Logical error:

When you do tutorial misions in industry or mining you get mining/hauler frigate class ship of that race.

For Amarr it's Tormentor.

But after this update, it has no mining/hauling bonues, but combat...

So how the heck should newbie do mining with no mining frigate?



And my solution to UI windows:

Just look what Computer OS did (Windows, MAC OS X, Linux etc.).
Do they have Unified window? NO! Imagine using Windows OS only with one window... Insane...

But you are going to the right direction, because new OS also have folder/location tree on the left.
So make both, and learn from others.

Vote for multiple windows with location tree
Slider VII
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#752 - 2012-05-24 04:53:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Slider VII
UI for the ships and inventory is not the greatest. I think that there should be something added to allow players to be able to pick betweeen the new style and the old.


Something simlar to the the Captain Quarters when it was rolled out.

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Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#753 - 2012-05-24 05:01:03 UTC
Pirmasis Sparagas wrote:
Logical error:

When you do tutorial misions in industry or mining you get mining/hauler frigate class ship of that race.

For Amarr it's Tormentor.

But after this update, it has no mining/hauling bonues, but combat...

So how the heck should newbie do mining with no mining frigate?



And my solution to UI windows:

Just look what Computer OS did (Windows, MAC OS X, Linux etc.).
Do they have Unified window? NO! Imagine using Windows OS only with one window... Insane...

But you are going to the right direction, because new OS also have folder/location tree on the left.
So make both, and learn from others.

Vote for multiple windows with location tree



Lol the devs knew that new amarr pilots uses their sigil for mining...LolLolLol
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#754 - 2012-05-24 05:14:56 UTC
ATTENTION a new dev blog with the ability to bring your comments to CCP is started HERE

Write in this new one and bring CCP to change the UI.
It would be nice if someone will bring this new link into every new page of this thread.
Thank you guys. Bring proposals to CCP. Lets work together. Smile
Crozella
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#755 - 2012-05-24 05:30:01 UTC
New unified inventory system has a couple useful features, but is lacking in so many ways, its actually worse than the old system. Looting / Salvaging a mission now is a horrible pain in the ass. Every container / wreck you open comes with quite a lot of lag before it opens and before it disappears. Pretty much everything about the unified inventory is a complete hindrance when you are in space, and mildly annoying while docked.

I feel I had to put this out there, despite the fact that the devs don't seem to be reading it. Anyone else notice there are pages of complaints about the unified inventory and the only dev responses have been to the small handful of other comments that were made?
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#756 - 2012-05-24 05:32:01 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
ATTENTION a new dev blog with the ability to bring your comments to CCP is started HERE

Write in this new one and bring CCP to change the UI.
It would be nice if someone will bring this new link into every new page of this thread.
Thank you guys. Bring proposals to CCP. Lets work together. Smile


Maybe they should lock this one ;)

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Tark en Chalune
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#757 - 2012-05-24 05:59:57 UTC
Pirmasis Sparagas wrote:


Just look what Computer OS did (Windows, MAC OS X, Linux etc.).
Do they have Unified window? NO! Imagine using Windows OS only with one window... Insane...

But you are going to the right direction, because new OS also have folder/location tree on the left.
So make both, and learn from others.

Vote for multiple windows with location tree


The interface they chose was a rip-off of standard cellphone interfaces. Which might make some texting punk kid happy, but leaves adult computer users cold or enraged.

Single window is a compromise to reduce clutter on a tiny cellphone screen. It absolutely does not belong on a PC interface, unless you are some poor person struggling with a 14" CRT.

Roll back this inventory UI.
Tark en Chalune
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#758 - 2012-05-24 06:02:45 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
ATTENTION a new dev blog with the ability to bring your comments to CCP is started HERE

Write in this new one and bring CCP to change the UI.
It would be nice if someone will bring this new link into every new page of this thread.
Thank you guys. Bring proposals to CCP. Lets work together. Smile


Dev comment from this blog:

Quote:
Q: Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes.

A: No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.





There. I just saved you the trouble of reading or commenting there.

Unsub. Put the Inventory UI down in the unsub comment field as why you are unsubbing. If they don't listen to that, then there is no point to continuing to pay them.
Zorlon Yvormes
Masonic Guard
#759 - 2012-05-24 06:04:34 UTC
Evilynthea wrote:
If you collect modules/ammo/any amount of loot at all, the new inventory system is totally unusable. I will be unsubscribing all accounts within 2 weeks if not fixed.



Really??!!! You would unsubscribe over the Unified Inventory window. I for one love it. It makes loot sorting extremely easy and when I am looking for something specific the filters are awesome. If you don't like it remember, you can still click+shift to open up additional windows.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#760 - 2012-05-24 06:13:40 UTC
Another not-so-great thing is that it now takes longer after logging in until I can actually see my ship and do anything. By the time the black screen fades, my ship is already warping. Previously I could always drop a probe and scan the system for sigs and ships while aligning for the auto-warp. Not cool :(

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