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Unified Inventory,

I dont have a problem with the new layout, but a couple of things i noticed or have suggestions for:

-underneath the tree, the "My Filters" box keeps popping back up forcing me to minimize it every time. In fact when i minimize it, and it pops up, i have to click the double >> twice...once to "expand" it (even though it already expanded on its own) and again to collapse it (until it decides to expand on its own again)

-top and bottom bars seem to take up a lot of room

-top where it says Index >> Filter search box...any way these can be moved somewhere else? Index can be moved to the very top header bar, search box can be moved somewhere else.

-bottom, item number...does it really need its own line? cant we put it on the same line as the ISK and have it aligned to the left?

-bottom, ISK...any way we can make this round off? instead of 129,567,123.666.00 have it say 129.56 bil? I think i heard someone say this is an EVE wide average price for the items in the inventory. So why do we need the full amount if its just an average/estimate?

-in addition to shift click to open up in a new window can we also get a "right click > open in new window" option for stuff in the inventory tree?

Wow, you guys jumped all over the game UI, especially the new inventory system, really quickly.

I'm going to have to wait until the weekend before I even have enough time to reconfigure all of my audio/video/shortcut settings (especially the shortcuts, it took me hours to get all of those set up the way I wanted).

The only thing I did notice in the UI, since I had to log in to get to the settings to see if they really did actually reset all of my settings back to default, is that EVERY ****ING THING has been reset. Window layouts, overview settings, etc. Even stuff that theoretically weren't affected by the update in any way.

It's going to take me hours on Saturday morning to get my various instances all properly configured again.

How many patches does CCP go through on a release before things actually become playable again? I might just maintain my skill queues and spend my leisure time doing something else for awhile.

I doubt it will do any good as CCP has decided they want the Unified Inventory no mater how many of us dislike it and find it confusing and unintuitive.Please CCP fix this.
BTW could we get just one F****** DEV to comment on this and just tell us to STFU ,it is what it is and we dont care?Because that's what I think your (CCP's) silence on this issue is saying only you dont have the balls to come out and say it!

They did.

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779

I hate inferno so far. They need to make unified hangers an option. They need to stop trying to fix what wasn't broken. I hope they have a patch to fix the channels so only the people online are in the list of people. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems Dust was priority and EVE was an after thought. Seems POS fueling is horrible because of the unified hangers and other un-needed changes. I heard there were issues with inventing when the patch was deployed and the more I talk to people, the more bugs I hear about. Makes me wonder if anyone in CCP actually plays areas other than pvp, cause it seems they should have tested this stuff out and listened to any complains that players had with the stuff when it was on the test server. If they don't want to entirely un-unify the hangers, at least allow them to be in separate groups (ie ships and items together, cargo holds in a different group, and cans contents in another group.) I don't care if the corp hanger and personal hangers are in 1 group, but when your trying to move stuff from 1 hanger to another, this unified hanger set-up isn't the best way to make it user friendly.

The unified inventory system is a serious adjustment for many of us. I wont say its bad or good...really it sucks now cause its so different from what we knew before. But we are all gamers here and will adjust. BUT my hang up on this new inventory system is the incorporation of the active ship's cargohold in the the same window as the inventory.

Keeping the active ship's cargohold window separate from the inventory would make things alot easier when managing inventory, assets, ammo, etc., etc. between the hangers and the active ship cargohold.

Thanks for your time and consideration,
-Lic

unifited inventory or i can stop to play this game ..not just me alot of players was confuse

It only took me a few moments to appreciate the unified inventory. If your concern is to move inventory from one storage item to the other then all you have to select and drag it to the place you want it to go.

Its cleaner, allows you to quickly filter on major types; like ammo and materials/ore

Personally, I like the new format. I've been around for a little while, but I guess to some of you guys that have been around since 190 B.C. change might seem daunting. But this change is good in my humble opinion.

i'm not saying its perfect, but I can see and appreciate where its going.

About the Unified Inventory....how do i say this with the upmost respect, professionalism, and maturity?

UNIFIED INVENTORY IS A GREAT IDEA BUT NOT LAID OUT ANYWHERE CLOSE FOR A FINAL BUILD, REGARDLESS IF PLANNED TO UPDATE OR TO MAKE IT BETTER AT A LATER DATE.


I strongly urge to rollback the normal ships, item, and corp hanger layout as quickly as possible either permanently or until a better solution is discovered and thoroughly tested. I'm having a tough time finding where my stuff is at as there is simply TOO MUCH INFORMATION IN THE WINDOW.

There's a lot of quarky things about the new inventory that simply doesn't make sense why it was implmented. Here are a few:

* If there's a desire in having ship fittings easier to access, which before wasn't all that hard, then could have placed a button or link to the ship fittings screen instead of listing out every fitting in a file tree. The fact that you can collaspe menu items doesn't help at all.

* If I have seperated any windows off of the Unified Inventory main screen (Alt + C) I have to depress the Alt + C keystroke to see the menu if previously closed while windows are seperated off. Is burdensome.

* Corporation hanger names aren't shown when (Left Cick + Shift) is pressed. Tab names simply read "Corporation Hanger" -- not even a number is given. Fix that.

* I now have to seperate the cargohold window from each of my current ships and any ships I buy in the future or else it pops up into the unfied inventory menu. And once it's seperated the cargohold window is much larger than before with the current layout and widgets in there such as the isk value. Cool feature but bad implemenation if you ask me.

* All new asset related windows are first defaulted to the unified inventory menu (Alt + C) and have to seperate it out from there to wherever you want it placed. If Eve is a sandbox does that not extend to the placement of windows? And wasn't there a patch that made each window manueverable a year ago?



Furthermore, I was under the impression that Unified Inventory was another hanger or container that was isolated to setting up the logistical aspects of a fleet, whether it be for pvp, pve, incursions, etc. To me, it was advertised as a way of pooling assets into one pool and then distributing those assets among the entire fleet or at least the entire fleet has access to those resources. How would that all work, I dunno but thought that's what it was for.


I also don't fully understand why the entire face of the game had to change in the way we organized our stuff instead of an additional feature implemented. I've been playing Eve for several years and I'm supposed to just completely revolutionize teh way I access my stuff -- get real CCP.

There was nothing wrong the the previous methods and if it had a large enough impact on server load then fix it another way because the current iterration of Unified Inventory simply sucks balls. I am now more frustrated with this game than ever before and it's a large enough impact on me and the way I play this game that I am starting to think if it's worth playing at all.


CCP, I know you will do the right thing when it comes down to doing the right thing so please DO THE RIGHT THING HERE.



If a dev wants to sit down with me via IRC, Eve Voice, or simply forums or email I will be more than happy to explicity and very detailed my points of view in a mature manner.

This actually got me to log in to post. I could say the unified inventory sucks and leave it at that but that would be unhelpful. So let me clarify.

1. To new players it adds quite a bit of confusion and frustration on what is where related to their ship cargo holds.

2. For older players it adds steps because it is almost entirely necessary, when you have different sorted station containers and hundreds of items and dozens of ships, to SHIFT CLICK out the station containers and cargo holds you need to ensure you don't do the "lost outlook email drag" problem.

3. This one is the BIGGEST problem for me, when you are in space and you open a container it opens it in the unified inventory and not in a different window, this creates a problem if you are not wanting to LOOT ALL with the button but just 1 or 2 items.

4. The corp storage bay WITHIN my orca is listed under the inventory system as Corp Storage 7-8-9 something like that you have to use the last one to find your items.

Overall the inventory is fine in the station.... all be it more confusing and time consuming..... but in space with containers it is a problem. (Also the orca hangar thing is a GIGANTIC confusing problem because it doesnt tell me, YEP that's in this ship you have docked if I had not had several items in it I might not have been able to figure how to even access the orca bay after the patch.)

I would deeply appreciate you taking a look at it. Also if you think we are all people who just complain on every patch please see how often I have spoken on the forums.

Bedlin '09 character