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New dev blog: Unified inventory

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GoldenBoy Odunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#761 - 2012-05-23 06:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: GoldenBoy Odunen
First time to post just for this, +1 here (not quite ready for release) What?.

I would request that a windows that has been shift clicked and moved, such as hangar items come back that way.
Having things pop up inside the window where i want to drag items from isn't very handy.

I pray the DT patch pixies will have mercy on us very soon.
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#762 - 2012-05-23 07:02:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
I would suggest to roll back to the old (hundreds of own, seperate but adjustable windows) and burn the sh!t new UI, Also fire CCP Arrow.

As I stated on January. WE DO NOT NEED ONE WINDOW WITH ALL INFORMATIONS!!!! What a bullsh!it is this? It was possible to drag ALL windows together onto one useless window till yesterday. But no one did this. Because it is and always was a bad idea. Why do you think, that one for all window is a good idea now?

Horrible sh!t.
Fire Arrow!
Roll back!
-10 for your work Mr. Arrow and your team! Not necessary nor ever wanted! Bad idea in the beginning!

If there is an planned activity like shooting a statue in Jita; let me know. I will be there.
Pierced Brosmen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#763 - 2012-05-23 07:33:25 UTC
From the dev blog

If your client looks like that (with the old, tried, tested and otherwise fully functional UI) when you manage your inventory, you're doing it wrong.... VERY WRONG.

I can understand the wish for reducing the number of windows, but with a tiny bit of organization, the old system could be very tidy, even with many windows open... Having one window to do everything makes things a whole lot more cumbersome.
Malcorian Vandsteidt
Alpha Trades
Solyaris Chtonium
#764 - 2012-05-23 07:34:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt
Well.... It's no surprise the Devs think their work is awesome. I mean I would... If I was a dev, but if I was a dev I'd also be an avid player of the game and realize the following:

You would note that many of these changes make life MUCH harder and on occasion impossible to do something while playing, rather then easier.

I'm not going to say that what you did was a waste of time, it looks good, and the concept seems useful, but I would honestly suggest you either A Post an instruction manual for how to transfer things using multiple windows with your new system, and continually keep multiple windows open while transferring items and watching cargo's.

Or B. Role back the system until you actually have one that works instead of a pile of hopes a dreams that's actually just a pile of crap where usefulness is concerned.

Just my 2 sense as a Beta Player, I'm not going anywhere been here to long, but seriously... this makes my life MUCH harder and a chore to play eve rather then fun.
Terios Corvalis
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#765 - 2012-05-23 07:39:53 UTC
This inventory system supposed to make this game more easier to handle, user friendlier and a lot more cool stuff. Let me sum it up: It FAILED, spectacularly. Please give us people an option to turn it off!Evil
Josef Djugashvilis
#766 - 2012-05-23 07:51:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Perhaps CCP should ask those nice folk at Apple Computers how to make stuff user friendly.

No, I am not an Apple fan. They are far too arrogant as a company for my taste.

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Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#767 - 2012-05-23 07:56:59 UTC
Time to move shoting monuments!!! :P

Anger is anger, crap is crap and this inventory a garbage.
Bo Deepzone
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#768 - 2012-05-23 08:08:25 UTC
I've been annoyed with the new Unified Inventory for a while too, though I do realize that getting used to a new GUI takes time.

Where I struggled to get things accomplished yesterday, today it already comes more naturally and in a weeks time, I'll probably be used to UI.

As such I'll hold off my remarks (positive as well as negative) till CCP has had a chance to fix some of the issues at hand, hopefully as soon as DT today Smile
Vedje
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#769 - 2012-05-23 08:12:02 UTC
Hey i have an idea

Maybe CCP can be so kind and implement old inventory, but kinda as dlc in some way
but associated in NEX store. I mean, i am sure everyone would risk a few plex to buy it
and what a wonderful way it would be for ccp to finally sell something!

Alternative would be an attempt to fix the new inventory. This always makes me laugh however,
i wish my job was this fun, fixing stuff i intentionally broke.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#770 - 2012-05-23 08:29:01 UTC
Anybody who created this thing TRIED managing multiple POSes, Orcas etc, possibly on 2-3 clients?

No, else this thing would NEVER have seen the light.

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Symlin Raahn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#771 - 2012-05-23 08:48:37 UTC
This Item Hanger should NOT be what is shown when looting a wreck!!!!!!!!!

It makes looting a pain in the ass.

Sometimes trying to play EVE just makes me tired... tired of fighting all the changes CCP makes that cause you to have to redo things.
Pierced Brosmen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#772 - 2012-05-23 08:56:00 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Anybody who created this thing TRIED managing multiple POSes, Orcas etc, possibly on 2-3 clients?

No, else this thing would NEVER have seen the light.

Wihtout evidence, I still believe CCP's version of testing this regarding POSes is: Set up a tower, one corp hangar, one ship maintenance bay... look at inventory and say "Looks good, let's roll with this"

I haven't even dared visit any of the POSes since monday... Cause I just know it's gonna be bad

Only place so far, I can actualy say I like the new inventory is for courier work... dock at station, drag package from items to cargo within the tree view (short distance) and undock again... It was a positive suprpise, but I bet that is only cause I have very little inventory to manage, wich makes the tree very tidy and short
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#773 - 2012-05-23 09:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger's Spirit
Pierced Brosmen wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Anybody who created this thing TRIED managing multiple POSes, Orcas etc, possibly on 2-3 clients?

No, else this thing would NEVER have seen the light.

Wihtout evidence, I still believe CCP's version of testing this regarding POSes is: Set up a tower, one corp hangar, one ship maintenance bay... look at inventory and say "Looks good, let's roll with this"

I haven't even dared visit any of the POSes since monday... Cause I just know it's gonna be bad

Only place so far, I can actualy say I like the new inventory is for courier work... dock at station, drag package from items to cargo within the tree view (short distance) and undock again... It was a positive suprpise, but I bet that is only cause I have very little inventory to manage, wich makes the tree very tidy and short



You forgot tell to us, all guns and crap within grid, you see in your inventory. LOL
You see there the 40km far guns, you see there everything but you cant handling those things, because you need to move to 2500km distance. But i dont understand if something not in 2500km range and i or anything else cant handling those items, why i see in my inventory ? And why wasting my loading times ?

At a death star you see 123576812538534 items guns etc, need half hour for scrolling to find anything and need horrible load time to see those things, what is useless for you and cant handling because far distances.

Who was the smart developer with this idea ? I hope he will be the first who will fired there.
Adoniyah
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#774 - 2012-05-23 09:31:50 UTC
WTF have you done with my items and ships page.. please CCP give a classic option or throw this garbage you call a update away. It really makes me want to not play.. Moving items from hangar to cargo to containers is a *****, not to mention the crap that happens when u try to loot a wreck... PLZ PLZ PLZ CCP give a classic option.
tasman devil
Puritans
#775 - 2012-05-23 09:58:48 UTC
Terios Corvalis wrote:
This inventory system supposed to make this game more easier to handle, user friendlier and a lot more cool stuff. Let me sum it up: It FAILED, spectacularly. Please give us people an option to turn it off!Evil

Here, I summed it up too:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1342675#post1342675

Some good ideas, a LOT of bad execs... :P

I don't belive in reincarnation I've never believed in it in my previous lives either...
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#776 - 2012-05-23 10:36:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Musashibou Benkei wrote:
CCP have now fulfilled the interface analogy described in this video. Next, it'll be the "fifty billion different skills" part with race specific skills :P


Had fun watching this, so much truth Lol

Also: CCP make the "WINDOW" optional plz

brb
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#777 - 2012-05-23 10:38:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
put your new inventory system into trash bin, and give us the old one back.

I dont feel my cargohold should be unified with station item hangar or even SHIPS HANGAR NOT SHOWING MY CURRENT SHIP IM IN.
They are unrelated, they should not be unified, there is no reason and only makes things difficult!!
Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
#778 - 2012-05-23 10:52:05 UTC
This new inventory system is appaling as it is now,
I wont say much different then most that have replied here,

But I do want to say this:
We have seen the lack of communication from CCP before, the not taking feedback from playerbase seriously,
not responding to serious complaints and ideas.
Remember this CCP?

Last time this complete and utter shutdown of communications happened, Hillmar came out with an apology..
Quote:
*snip*
We really do have something that no one else has. EVE is still unique in the real and virtual world. This is our vision for her, and we want so badly to take you there. But getting there is not an entitlement. It will take hard work, open communication and, above all else, collaboration with you. The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience. When we channel our passion for EVE constructively, we can make this vision a reality together.

But enough talk from me. We all know that much quoted phrase, “It’s not what you say, it’s what you do,” that will make the difference here. From now on, CCP will focus on doing what we say and saying what we do. That is the path to restoring trust and moving forward.


So hillmar and devs responsible for this new UI.. you said back then, there was a serious lack of communication that needed to be fixed,
that there needed to be collaboration with the playerbase.
Yet, 60 pages later, not one of the responsible devs have responded,
worse even, when tested and shot down by playerbase on SISI, devs should have already stopped themselves before going live with this.

We watch what you say (in this case, nothing) And we watch what you do (in this case, hide and ignore playerbase yet again)
Hillmar, never forget valuable lessons learned in the past, apologies will only get you respect when made sincere and not repeated every half a year.
Symlin Raahn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#779 - 2012-05-23 11:05:14 UTC
Faith Patrouette wrote:
This new inventory system is appaling as it is now,
I wont say much different then most that have replied here,

So hillmar and devs responsible for this new UI.. you said back then, there was a serious lack of communication that needed to be fixed,
that there needed to be collaboration with the playerbase.
Yet, 60 pages later, not one of the responsible devs have responded,
worse even, when tested and shot down by playerbase on SISI, devs should have already stopped themselves before going live with this.


Agreed, Faith .

I'm getting tired of this old path again and am seriously thinking of just shutting down my two accounts.

Games are supposed to be fun.

Sometimes trying to play EVE just makes me tired... tired of fighting all the changes CCP makes that cause you to have to redo things.
Miko Taeel
Safety Set To Red
Train Wreck.
#780 - 2012-05-23 11:06:51 UTC
Jstar999 wrote:

1Of9 wrote:

DazedOne wrote:
I have an idea CCP, make your crappy unified inventory optional. It is beyond horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for making my corp hangers in that crappy interface, now I have to do more work to find items. Make this optional like you did with that crappy ass captains quarters like most of us aren't using. I would think you would of learned your lesson from that debacle. apparently not. Only positive thing I can say is I like the missilie effects. You guys need to pull your heads out of your collective you know what and start listening to your damn players. How many of them told you that inventory crap you slapped together sucks nuts???????? MOST OF THEM!!!!!!!!!



CCP LISTEN TO THIS MEN HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



+1


just copied from the Inferno feedback thread since the devs responsible for this SH**** seem to have vanished in thin air Idea

FIX IT