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Incendiary Lemons
#21 - 2012-05-22 14:03:21 UTC
I Don't get all the hate with the new inventory, I think it works fine! Good job CCP on another great expansion!
Ishtvaan
Ghost Wolves Ltd
#22 - 2012-05-22 14:05:30 UTC
Evilynthea wrote:
Angeliq wrote:
Dafawk? What's wrong with you ppl? Why did you change the Items and Hangar windows? They were just fine!

How can I see the content of my ship's cargo and station items + other content from containers or other ship's cargo holds, ALL at the same time?
What if I like to keep my items organized in containers?

This Inventory crap does not help.
ROLL IT BACK!



This. Totally unplayable if you keep any amounts of inventory that you want to shift between containers/hangars/ships/corp hangars.




Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click? Dunno if that's what you mean :)

I must say i like it!
Dinta Zembo
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold.
#23 - 2012-05-22 14:06:23 UTC
Ishtvaan wrote:
Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click?


Have you tried undocking then docking
Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#24 - 2012-05-22 14:09:34 UTC
CCP, I really really hate your Inventory. It's... awful, although filters may be useful
Ishtvaan
Ghost Wolves Ltd
#25 - 2012-05-22 14:13:18 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
Ishtvaan wrote:
Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click?


Have you tried undocking then docking


Yes, works fine.
Darod Zyree
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-05-22 14:13:31 UTC
And still cannot repackage items in POS corporate hangers. Cry
Kasriel
#27 - 2012-05-22 14:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kasriel
everything seems ok.. except for the unified inventory window

> Double click to open JUST ships cargo now gone - i seem to remember complaints when this was removed in the past?
> Ship cargohold now gone - this ruins my personal layout but it's an annoyance
> Doesn't seem to 'remember' it's position
> Picking up cargobays from POS guns 20km away
> No ability to remove items you don't want in the list overview style?
> Filter for valuble items picks up ammo and cheap BPO but not faction POS towers?
> Useless for blueprints until ME/PE is displayed in list or detail view
> Doesn't work well with certain colour schemes (as shown by Chribba)
> Windows decide to resize themselves with no particular reason upon undocking/docking
> POS hangers with large amounts of copies now lag MORE than they used to (before you had a slight delay to load items, now you have lag on everything to do with said items)

bugs i've found so far:

> attempting to repackage station containers that have been used will no longer say your unable to repackage the item due to entries in the log it just won't do it with no explanation as to why

my thoughts?

make it optional, just like the WiS stuff, or roll back and remove it, put it back on SiSi till it's actually ready and not missing half the benefits of the old window system or at least not so clunky and unintuative i like only having what i want open open you know?

also these new modules should be T1 and have BPO seeded so it's actually a player driven market.. just a thought as it's a basic cornerstone of the game y'know...
Dinta Zembo
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold.
#28 - 2012-05-22 14:14:47 UTC
Ishtvaan wrote:
Dinta Zembo wrote:
Ishtvaan wrote:
Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click?


Have you tried undocking then docking


Yes, works fine.


Yeh apart from the fact that it won't remember your open windows.
Gun Gun
Ronin Cartel
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#29 - 2012-05-22 14:15:11 UTC
FFS! Make the new inventory useful. I don't want to spend minutes rearranging all of the inventory windows EACH time i see the station.
When docking in a capsule, you are greeted with a half a window wide inventory screen for your capsule's cargo. Very useful...
CCP Bella Bee
C C P
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2012-05-22 14:21:33 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
Ishtvaan wrote:
Dinta Zembo wrote:
Ishtvaan wrote:
Have you tried right - click and select "open in new window" or the shortcut Shift+Click?


Have you tried undocking then docking


Yes, works fine.


Yeh apart from the fact that it won't remember your open windows.

Try clearing your windows settings and see if that fixes it. We are investigating why this is happening, it is not intended.
Clayton Dozer
#31 - 2012-05-22 14:24:13 UTC
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature

i think im trolling this forum post correctly if im not then please shut up..
Tor Nolen
Umbrella Heavy Industries
#32 - 2012-05-22 14:24:37 UTC
The missile effects are awesome. My Hawk firing rockets is the coolest thing in EVE Pirate
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-05-22 14:28:10 UTC
It all works, but I have a list of annoyance factors:

Too much space in the shift-clicked windows is eaten up by the filtering tools and pricing info. Please make those optional.

I really do not want to see pricing info, unless I am actually pricing stuff. And even then, I'll use the market tools we already have to make sure I'm buying/selling for a good price.

And why do we need filtering tools on a shift-clicked window? Sorting by header (as it used to be) is fine if you have pre-filtered and shift-clicked a window open.

Salvaging ops now suXXors. Way slower than before. The window mechanics are very inefficient. I have not found a way open multiple loot windows and have them stack such that I can rapidly hit "loot all" on a stacked array of loot windows.

Also, it is annoying that when you click "loot all" the main inventory window reverts to the cargo hold, which I already have open via shift-clicking, so this is redundant. The code should acknowledge the fact that you have a particular window shift-clicked open, and not auto-pop-up the main inventory window after every operation.

It is also incredibly annoying to have the main inventory window pop open after jumping and docking. Or, if you leave it open and jump, it toggles closed, then on the next jump, it toggles open. Is really this the way you designed it?

The oricing info is way off from regioanl average - I found a difference between cargo window info and market info of 70K on an item that sells for 96K. That's too much error and goes well beyond any misinterpretation of data.

More to follow as I review this stuff.

Bottom line for me:
1) Make the filtering and pricing optional so we get our window real estate back.
2) Fix the inefficient window mechanics as ANY and ALL tasks requiring the inventory are nor far more click intensive.
3) This seems like yet another time when the player base must "get used to it". Certainly you have enough brain power at CCP to design a more efficient system. Use your brains to make things better, because your customers should never have to "get used to it". Failing to do that causes serious annoyance.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#34 - 2012-05-22 14:28:49 UTC
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hey thanks, I'll look into it

also, don't do it? Blink

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Ayame Tao
#35 - 2012-05-22 14:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayame Tao
Tor Nolen wrote:
The missile effects are awesome. My Hawk firing rockets is the coolest thing in EVE Pirate


nu-uuh!

My Scorpion Navy Issue firing cruises is.

CCP Punkturis wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


hey thanks, I'll look into it

also, don't do it? Blink


Its the new AWOX-detecting feature.
Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#36 - 2012-05-22 14:31:04 UTC
I've got an idea. CCP, you will never fit everyone's tastes for UI. Please, make it adjustable. I hate your inventory, someone may like it. I'm sure it will cost you nothing to make us able to set all the stuff in there. For me, the usual interface style is "1000-and-1 window". Unified inventory is unplayable for now.
Dinta Zembo
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold.
#37 - 2012-05-22 14:31:10 UTC
CCP Bella Bee wrote:
Dinta Zembo wrote:


Yeh apart from the fact that it won't remember your open windows.

Try clearing your windows settings and see if that fixes it. We are investigating why this is happening, it is not intended.



Didn't work.
Darod Zyree
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-05-22 14:34:02 UTC
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


won't work

14:34:19 Notify You know, there are easier ways to kill yourself than declaring war.
Why not find a nice airlock to jump out of or something?
Ishanmae
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-05-22 14:37:57 UTC
Darod Zyree wrote:
Clayton Dozer wrote:
lol i can war dec my own alliance for 50 million isk guess they didnt test that feature


won't work

14:34:19 Notify You know, there are easier ways to kill yourself than declaring war.
Why not find a nice airlock to jump out of or something?


Teehee... that's a nice one Lol
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#40 - 2012-05-22 14:38:31 UTC
First impressions are very important and I on't like the new inventory at all Sad. Don't even know how to drag and drop supplies from my Corp Hangar Array to my ships cargohold any more.

Everyone's see a pvp video where someone drags cap booster charges from a container in their cargohold to the cargohold itself. How are you supposed to do that any more if you can only have 1 invnetory window open at a time?

Would really appreciate a tick box in the escape menu that lets me disable the new inventory system and have the old one back.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.