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New dev blog: Observing the "Burn Jita" Player Event

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pashared
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#181 - 2012-05-03 03:54:41 UTC  |  Edited by: pashared
I was able to get in and out of jita pretty easy. I grabbed a few wrecks then got to OOO and AHHH


TBH: I thought it was gonna be worse, but impressive none the less. after looking at the stats thou I wonder what was kills isk totals vs isk lost.


great job ccp for making this run smooth and awesome DEVBLOG





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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#182 - 2012-05-03 04:02:19 UTC
Dream Five wrote:
I think the most interesting thing would be to know whether goons & co destroyed more ISK than they lost.

500b destroyed to 150b lost (approx)

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Erica Virpio
Minion Revolution
Goonswarm Federation
#183 - 2012-05-03 04:14:04 UTC
Twisted[b][b] I loved what the goons did in Jita, i'm personally starting to get the hang of pvp in eve more and more, i still suck at it, but hey its a learning experience. If you wanna whine about losing your ships and c!!p please shut up about it, i used to do that but now i love to grief the people that get me, its part of the game. And if its that big of a deal pay a protection fee to get a nice blue mark by yourself, or perhaps contract some mercs for protection. Or here is another thought train your combat skill or a combat alt, i lost 2 ships in jita on my alts but hey its happens i replaced them np, and i say again, great to the goons for a well executed attack on jita Twisted
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#184 - 2012-05-03 04:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
I dont like goons for me they are worse part of EvE community, but honestly i enyoi jita event, we need people like goons because eve is more interesing even they bunch of awful annoying trolls with thier fofo, vov etc. Also i wait for war dec cost changes, who know if a lot small corporation can aford war dec some big ally.

Ps.Good Dev blog, but a bit to exaggerated regarding to what happens during jita event, at last good nodes efficiency without big lag and good working TiDi.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#185 - 2012-05-03 05:22:31 UTC
You can just feel the pride coming out in the dev blog, and CCP should damn well be proud of this event. I experienced the blackscreening on Friday night, but after the hotfix, I never had that problem again.

Well done to all the staff at CCP that put in the time and effort on a weekend for this!
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
#186 - 2012-05-03 06:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dream Five
Weaselior wrote:
Dream Five wrote:
I think the most interesting thing would be to know whether goons & co destroyed more ISK than they lost.

500b destroyed to 150b lost (approx)


That's pretty good actually. I was wondering if you guys even broke 'even' with all the NOIR. and others interference.

I was also thinking a Tornado gank setup could be probably countered with thrashers/catalysts preemptively ganking the ganking Tordanos :)
Dorn Val
Probe Patrol
#187 - 2012-05-03 07:13:17 UTC
Thanks for all the hard work you've been putting into the game CCP! I've never played any game for more than a few months and I've been logging in almost daily for well over two years now, and the game just keeps getting better and better (especially since Crucible).

To the Goons: Thanks for burning Jita! I'm not into the ganking scene (I get my null sec fix in W space) but it's player run events like that one that really makes Eve online unique in the MMO scene!

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#188 - 2012-05-03 08:47:59 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
"Jita, Amarr, Rens and more..."

hmph. No love for Dodixie, Oursulaert or Stacmon - they are relegated to "more"..

Gallente get no respect no mo Cry
Fair comment; most days then the order of top solarsystems by total transaction value is Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Rens.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#189 - 2012-05-03 08:49:44 UTC
pashared wrote:
I was able to get in and out of jita pretty easy. I grabbed a few wrecks then got to OOO and AHHH


TBH: I thought it was gonna be worse, but impressive none the less. after looking at the stats thou I wonder what was kills isk totals vs isk lost.

great job ccp for making this run smooth and awesome DEVBLOG
Thank you; glad you enjoyed it.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#190 - 2012-05-03 08:54:51 UTC
Feligast wrote:
You can just feel the pride coming out in the dev blog, and CCP should damn well be proud of this event. I experienced the blackscreening on Friday night, but after the hotfix, I never had that problem again.

Well done to all the staff at CCP that put in the time and effort on a weekend for this!
Yeah, we were very happy how well Jita coped with this event and it was nice to see how all the improvements we have made in the last two years (and last few months client-side) all came together.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#191 - 2012-05-03 08:59:07 UTC
Dorn Val wrote:
Thanks for all the hard work you've been putting into the game CCP! I've never played any game for more than a few months and I've been logging in almost daily for well over two years now, and the game just keeps getting better and better (especially since Crucible).
Thank you. Big smile Nice to hear that you are enjoying the world we have built together!

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Bent Barrel
#192 - 2012-05-03 09:42:06 UTC
Great blog. Pity I could not take part to do some ninja looting.

I remember times when 300 people in Jita made the system stop so seeing a report of 2000+ folks in there and fighting is a serious accomplishment for CCP. CONGRATS !!!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#193 - 2012-05-03 10:40:28 UTC
Nice graphs, nice blog, nice job to everyone involved in making it happen, players and devs alike.

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#194 - 2012-05-03 10:48:56 UTC
Fantastic blog, fantastic work from CCP.

And the event, though certainly inconvenient, was spectacular and impressive as well. I'm quite curious now what will happen: Will repeated assaults against Jita lead us to a more decentralized economy, or will people just shrug off the occasional losses and carry on as they always have?

Just as an example, I would normally have shipped my PI products into Jita this weekend to sell. Being not stupid, I didn't. I considered bringing them to Amarr instead, but the prices were so much worse, I decided to wait and bring them to Jita anyway in a few days. So for me to even consider using another hub, the prices in the different hubs will have to become more competitive, or the risk of losing your ship in Jita on an average day will have to rise *a lot*.

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tasman devil
Puritans
We want your ISK
#195 - 2012-05-03 15:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: tasman devil
CCP Guard wrote:
Jita burning probably didn't pass anyone's attention and I'm sure many of you are interested in knowing more about the technical side of how it all went down behind the scenes and under the hood.

Here to tell you all about it in a whopper of a dev blog is CCP Explorer our Software Director, joined by CCP Atlas, CCP Veritas and CCP Manifest.

Enjoy!

Ok. And what about the broken crimewatch mechanics?
I'd like to see a BIG blog about that too. What was broken and why?

For example:
1: why were people killed by concord while shooting at agressors?
2: Why were people left with 3h aggro timer (!?) see here: http://i.imgur.com/g53mW.jpg - 3 HOURS of aggro left!?!
3: Also: how many goons were banned while burning Jita?
Don't tell me there were NONE!? // TINFOIL HAT!

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#196 - 2012-05-03 15:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
tasman devil wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Jita burning probably didn't pass anyone's attention and I'm sure many of you are interested in knowing more about the technical side of how it all went down behind the scenes and under the hood.

Here to tell you all about it in a whopper of a dev blog is CCP Explorer our Software Director, joined by CCP Atlas, CCP Veritas and CCP Manifest.

Enjoy!

Ok. And what about the broken crimewatch mechanics?
I'd like to see a BIG blog about that too. What was broken and why?

For example:
1: why were people killed by concord while shooting at agressors?
2: Why were people left with 3h aggro timer (!?) see here: http://i.imgur.com/g53mW.jpg - 3 HOURS of aggro left!?!
3: Also: how many goons were banned while burning Jita?
Don't tell me there were NONE!? // TINFOIL HAT!
I believe we covered the first two questions in these replies
I don't know who, if any, got banned.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Blade M Howser
0........0
#197 - 2012-05-03 15:57:08 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Jita burning probably didn't pass anyone's attention and I'm sure many of you are interested in knowing more about the technical side of how it all went down behind the scenes and under the hood.

Here to tell you all about it in a whopper of a dev blog is CCP Explorer our Software Director, joined by CCP Atlas, CCP Veritas and CCP Manifest.

Enjoy!


Looks as if ccp helped their favorite alliance gain alot of killmails by suggesting they burn jita and causing a bug with criminal flagging on the day this started.
i think all ccp employees and volunteers should have their main characters and alts banned from joining any player corps or alliances
Ernest Borgnine
Mine. Now. Please
Alliance. Now. Please.
#198 - 2012-05-03 16:28:32 UTC
Congrats to Goonswarm of Brothers and Sir Mittaniolle for becoming what they once hated so much. Bad things in life are never destroyed, merely replaced.
Lex Striker
Eldron Enterprises
#199 - 2012-05-03 16:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Lex Striker
Not sure if this belongs here, but here goes anyway...

I thought the tech part of this was great. I will give that to CCP [cheers]. However, one thing I question was the ability for Jita to truly defend itself. When the Goons started to attack, eventually everyone outside the Goons' Corp/Alliance should have been able to shoot them without CONCORD intervention... example...

1) A Character ganks and gets nailed by CONCORD. The Character comes back and does it again. After a certain number of times of doing this, 'anyone' outside the Character's Corp/Alliance should be able to shoot them on sight 'anywhere' for a reasonable amount of time. If they want to gank, then let them. Just know that people will be waiting to nail them when they come back. Right now, the gankers are given the immunity to strike when and where they want... and only the Characters they shoot at can respond. That, inm, gives the gankers a distinct advantage which I do not believe is fair.

2) If a certain amount of Characters within a Corp are flagged for ganking as above, then the Corp itself as a whole becomes flagged for anyone to shoot... again for a reasonable amount of time.

3) If a certain amount of Corps within an Alliance are flagged for ganking, then the entire Alliance itself gets flagged.

I read once that when someone gets the first shot off, they have the tendency to win in an equal 1v1 PvP encounter. That in itself gives the gankers a distinct advantage... because they get to pick and choose their targets and when to strike. If these gankers continue to gank, then fine... I have no issue with that. Where I have issue is I cannot shoot them unless they shoot me first. I cannot defend anyone against them and I cannot take preventive action against gankers when they show up. That is where I have issue. They want to gank... fine!!! This is Eve!!! I support that action. But give me a decent chance to fight back and leave their butts hanging for once. The playing field here needs to be leveled in some way.


Additonal: I am a HS Carebear Industrialist. I do not PvP and Mission only once in a while for standings. However, I will not turn away from a scrap that I feel I have a reasonable chance to win. I cannot defend against the Goons by myself. But I can if all of Jita were fighting with me as well. As long as gankers can keep the fight at this level, us HS Carebears will be nothing but the ganker's playthings. So how about giving us some teeth and the ability to respond in kind?... Ok CCP?
Krios Ahzek
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#200 - 2012-05-03 18:17:38 UTC
Dream Five wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Dream Five wrote:
I think the most interesting thing would be to know whether goons & co destroyed more ISK than they lost.

500b destroyed to 150b lost (approx)


That's pretty good actually. I was wondering if you guys even broke 'even' with all the NOIR. and others interference.


It was less like interference and more like killmail whoring on tornados while they are getting Concorded.

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