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Xorv Questionable Acquisitions Likes received: 466	#81 - 2012-04-16 00:06:28 UTC \| Edited by: Xorv Lanasak wrote: Barbara Nichole wrote: Remove all cloakers from local while they are cloaked (unless they speak up in chat) - you'll never have to feel threatened by an "AFK cloaker" again. this is a stupid idea, get lost Quite so, everyone should be removed from Local not just cloakers!

Doomheim 93
Lanasak Doomheim Likes received: 93	#82 - 2012-04-16 00:17:29 UTC Xorv wrote: Lanasak wrote: Barbara Nichole wrote: Remove all cloakers from local while they are cloaked (unless they speak up in chat) - you'll never have to feel threatened by an "AFK cloaker" again. this is a stupid idea, get lost Quite so, everyone should be removed from Local not just cloakers! nope

Xorv

Questionable Acquisitions

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#83 - 2012-04-16 00:25:46 UTC

Lanasak wrote:

Xorv wrote:

Lanasak wrote:

Barbara Nichole wrote:

Remove all cloakers from local while they are cloaked (unless they speak up in chat) - you'll never have to feel threatened by an "AFK cloaker" again.

this is a stupid idea, get lost

Quite so, everyone should be removed from Local not just cloakers!

nope

Yup.

Oh wait, what was DaftNefarius talking about again? No changes to Wormholes and Incursion Nerfs..

CCP could reverse the Incursions nerfs (which are quite small to begin with) and move all High Sec Incursions to Wormhole space, simultaneously granting DaftNefarius' demands of no Incursion income nerf and a change to WH space, all while making EVE a more balanced game.

DarthNefarius

Minmatar Heavy Industries

Likes received: 1,307

#84 - 2012-04-16 00:47:33 UTC

Masikari wrote:

Corina Jarr wrote:

Jessie-A Tassik wrote:

Lanasak wrote:

DarthNefarius wrote:

Blue loot is a ISK FOUNTAIN that injects as much ISK into the EVE economy as incursions do on a monthly basis

1) there's a lot more people cashing out blue loot than there are incursion runners
2) there is infinitely more risk in wormholes than in welfare incursions

Yet it would be better for everyone inflation wise if both Incursions and Wormhole dropped more raw materials/modules instead of printing ISK.

How does blue loot add isk? NPC buy orders?

Yup. It's the equivalent of bounties on any NPC ships. And CCP put NPC buy orders up for them for that reason.

Exactly if blue loot is "the equivalent of bounties on any NPC ships" it was a BLARING ommision by CCP Soundwave not to add it to the 10% nerf of all bounties he said was comming in his Ten Ton Hammer interview.

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'

Lanasak

Doomheim

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#85 - 2012-04-16 00:50:30 UTC

Xorv wrote:

Lanasak wrote:

Xorv wrote:

Lanasak wrote:

Barbara Nichole wrote:

Remove all cloakers from local while they are cloaked (unless they speak up in chat) - you'll never have to feel threatened by an "AFK cloaker" again.

this is a stupid idea, get lost

Quite so, everyone should be removed from Local not just cloakers!

nope

Yup.

I realize you want more ratter KMs but changing local has effects on the game beyond that


Xorv Questionable Acquisitions Likes received: 466	#86 - 2012-04-16 00:54:56 UTC Lanasak wrote: I realize you want more ratter KMs but changing local has effects on the game beyond that Yes it would, all of them good.


Lanasak Doomheim Likes received: 93	#87 - 2012-04-16 01:09:14 UTC Xorv wrote: Lanasak wrote: I realize you want more ratter KMs but changing local has effects on the game beyond that Yes it would, all of them good. yeah like cloaking becoming far overpowered gr8 4 teh game m8 o7 stick to missions, thanks

Xorv

Questionable Acquisitions

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#88 - 2012-04-16 01:29:34 UTC

Lanasak wrote:

Xorv wrote:

Lanasak wrote:

I realize you want more ratter KMs but changing local has effects on the game beyond that

Yes it would, all of them good.

yeah like cloaking becoming far overpowered

gr8 4 teh game m8 o7

stick to missions, thanks

Right, because that's why it was more easy to sneak around, ambush, and evade in Darkfall that had no invisibility stealth than it is in EVE which has full invisibility. Local Chat doesn't just break Cloaking, it breaks an entire way of playing. Anyone defending Local in EVE is completely out to lunch as far as I'm concerned. What other MMO has anything remotely like EVE's Local Chat? None that I've played.

umm.. what do missions have to do with this?

Local Chat Intel is overpowered, game breaking, and it needs to go!

Jack Tronic

borkedLabs

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#89 - 2012-04-16 01:32:18 UTC | Edited by: Jack Tronic

DarthNefarius wrote:

Digital Messiah wrote:

1. they are not a faucet, because they do not bring in more isk as a number they simply use what is already floating around.

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bull crap SLEEPER BLUE LOOT is a ISK faucet pure & simple because it injects ISK into Eve through NPC buy orders!

So do all levels of missions, NPC give you isk directly for time spent. Sleeper blue loot gives you isk for time spent. Incursions also still give isk, but in a different ratio for TIME SPENT.

Lanasak

Doomheim

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#90 - 2012-04-16 01:39:57 UTC

Xorv wrote:

local chat doesn't break cloaking, it balances it

anybody who argues that local "intel" needs to be removed without any serious changes to numerous parts of the game is clueless about how the game is played in nullsec

Elle Lau

Lazerhawks

L A Z E R H A W K S

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#91 - 2012-04-16 02:24:53 UTC

YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO TAKE YOUR SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU TYPE/POST LIKE THIS???

Seriously, the op obviously has no clue about this matter so don't post up to feed his trolling ego.
Having lived in WHs since they were introduced. I decided to check out incursions about 9 months ago and it was sickeningly easy compared to WH space, for slightly more reward as well... it just doesn't make sense.

Michael1995

Lazerhawks

L A Z E R H A W K S

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#92 - 2012-04-16 02:25:19 UTC

Perhaps the reason WHs haven't been nerfed is because they ARE actually well balanced already!
I know that it might be hard for you to come to grips with, but you have to seriously think about it.

It's in nullsec without local afterall. you too could make the isk if you actually got your balls in order, organized a group of people, and moved into a C5 and started earning RISKFILLED isk OMYGAWD!

But no, keep in HS and keep up your damned whining, maybe one day WHs will get nerfed cause of all the whiny people that only know of incursions. Smile

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DarthNefarius

Minmatar Heavy Industries

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#93 - 2012-04-16 02:29:45 UTC

Xorv wrote:

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Local Chat Intel is overpowered, game breaking, and it needs to go!

So you are saying HI/lo/NULL SEC local should be just like WH's.... interesting point but back to the threads subject:

Lanasak wrote:

holding sov in nullsec is a laughing riot these days and the only special thing about it is the ability to build supercaps.

With the deletion of Drone alloys the building of SuperCap has taken severe nerf. Escalation appears to be a big nerf on all known space but a repreive on W space. Why has Inferno's heat escaped all wormholes CCP?

Tobiaz wrote:

I don't think there are that many WH-peeps switching over to Incursions though, maybe some of the ones in low WH with small, inactive corporations, but iIn a good WH-corp you can make twice as much ISK/hour then the shiniest VG-blitzers. When making that much money, the only risk that can even put a dent in your wallet is if you get evicted, and that's almost impossible with well-organized occupants.

This is what I'm really hearing about WH riches. All & all when compating the Incursion wealth versus the sleeper site wealth the peeps in WH's are making more wealth then the richest of the incursion runners. The only peeps that are richer are those at the top o the rung in the HUGE NULL SEC alliances& their MOON goo ATM machines ( cha-CHING Question

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'

Apolyon I

Shadow of ISW

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#94 - 2012-04-16 03:02:00 UTC

Tobiaz wrote:

since when the only risk is getting evicted and how come it's impossible??

you prob havent seen AAA bearing fleet got wiped out

Adacia Calla

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#95 - 2012-04-16 03:04:10 UTC

DarthNefarius wrote:

Incursions getting nerfed & drone alloys getting nerfed why are the blue loot NPC buy orders not getting nerfed to to help with the inflation?!?! The Pax Amarrian nerf was a good precendent of a NPC sell order which was balanced next the sleeper blue loot NPC buy order should be cut in the name of balance. A possible bounty 10% cut is being thrown around too by CCP Soundwave. Only one currenntly smelling like a rose is the Wormhole residents with the Escalation to Inferno lets have HYPERINFLATION mean the end fo Empire NPC's no longer being able to affford to buy sleeper crap which is non ribbons which acually add something to Eve & empire ( at least with Incursions Capsuleers are providing a service to Empire residents what has blueloot added to Empire's security? ) . LETS HAVE EVERYONE FEEL THE PAIN OF ESCALATING INFERNO[:!: A pox on EVERYONE'S house

TLDR.

My .2 isk: Wormholes are ******* hard.

It's been a year since I lived in a C5, but that lifestyle is NOT easy, blue loot should stay the way it is.

Test signature....forum not applying settings :(

Elle Lau

Lazerhawks

L A Z E R H A W K S

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#96 - 2012-04-16 03:19:36 UTC

DarthNefarius wrote:

What the hell is your problem? Yes you make more isk in WH space, but there's risk compared to no risk. There's logistics involved in getting the money/payout. You could die going through the several wormholes to get out to sell it.

All you're looking at is the end payout compared to incursions, you're not looking at anything in between when trying to get the payout Straight

Stop being a troll and actually read some of this information that has been posted up on the first few pages.

Come move to WH space and get a clue Ugh

Domheimed 86
Kobal81 Domheimed Likes received: 86	#97 - 2012-04-16 03:32:16 UTC You rly sound mad, need eh tissue??? "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"