EVE General Discussion

By the massive attack on the Mitanni, you mean people discussing and reporting what he did? I'm sure you wouldn't be foolish enough to suggest that everyone who has criticised him or reported his words should be treated as equivalent to someone who makes RL threats because that would represent the most complete failure of reasoning possible.

Discussing the genuinely bad things that someone has done is not bullying. Directly encouraging people to take unwarranted action against that person would be bullying. In the hundreds of pages of threads I have read on this I have come across almost no posts that could be construed in any way as bullying the Mittani. So, how is the massive 'attack' on the Mittani not bullying? Because legitimate criticism is legitimate.

100 % agree with the OP.
It was a stupid, tasteless joke, nothing more. The Wis probably would have never known about it, if it weren't for all the crusaders on the forums.
Interesting fact: CCP actually approved the evemail for presentation! Which can only mean they didn't take it seriously either. If a person's really mentally unstable, the showing of the evemail alone could have triggered a meltdown, even if the character was not specifically named.

But this whole ruckus never was about the Wis' wellbeing anyway, was it?

Is outmeta'd a word?

Alexander Gianturco's actions were, for the most part, premeditated. What he apologized for is being drunk and not remembering what he said. Not for writing a PPT about a possibly suicidal victim. To him and his goons it is a joke. And if the victim would have committed suicide I have no doubt in my mind it just would have been more 'punch' to their joke. Because people like these guys simply are unable to distinguish where the game ends and real life begins. They simply lack that part of the brain that makes those connections. And they're also very proud of this disability.

After his 'genuine' apology he went on a rant and rage on how he is being "crucified" over this and how he really doesn't act like this in real life while encouraging his legion of idiots to increase their meta game play by causing massive grief on the game and to drive as many people away from Eve as possible. Because that is how the goons "play". They use the game as a grief tool and call it playing. And then, get mad when called on it.

In short, Mr Gianturco has not taken responsibility for his actions. He's mandating his legion of idiots to do as much damage as they possibly can to CCP and its playerbase. This is real life revenge, not a 'genuine' apology.

OP: We're not here to be good guy so stop slandering our good name.

Pretty sure no one really likes what he said, I sure dont. What I am saying is that a huge amount of people jumped on the band wagon simply because he leads the CFC and no other reason. He was banned, he resigned the csm, he apologised, he sent the guy 11 billion isk.

Ive seen worse posted here on these forums than what he actually said at fanfest. I dont see anyone rightous anger being directed at them.

Can the ****. You had no interest in an apology or his punishment. He could be cutting a pound of flesh off his body right now and you'd be bitching about how it should have been two.

I was first actually poised in believing his apology, that is until he went off on a rampage encouraging his alliance to meta game like they never have before. So I'm thinking maybe you should **** off.

I have to agree with the OP, this has gone way way way beyond censuring someone for a tasteless and stupid remark.

There was good reason for the penalties handed down but people playing politics is annoying.

The important thing is to not ramp up the consequences because of outcry. He took his penalty standing up and if that is enough then all the politicals can shout at walls. If they increase his penalty beyond what is deserved then there is a problem.

I personally think he paid his due and it is over. Others will disagree and will discuss that but unless they can come up with a real reason besides I hate Goons then they can sit and spin.

Their doesn't need to be anger for those incidences. Just consequences.