Crime & Punishment

You can read or post about it through the link below or here.
Please leave a comment about what you think regarding this service.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/so8z2/fixed_bounty_system_or_griefing_service/

From the link:

So I've had this idea to fix the broken bounty system that CCP continuously ignores. I now have some free time to create this service since I've gotten some slack after completing some web projects for work. I would like to gather some feedback and see what people actually think about the concept.

How does it work?

• Players can use isk to place a bounty on someone which will be displayed on our EveHitList website.
• Players who destroy a ship/pod of the bountied toon will receive the lesser of either full bounty or total isk damage inflicted (according to battleclinic, blue prints not included).

The bounty isk is pooled so any remaining isk will be distributed to future killers of the bountied toon in the same manor until all funds are depleted.

How do you redeem a bounty? To redeem a bounty a player must goto our site and either enter the URL of the battleclinic api verified killmail or input their own API vcode so that the site can pull their kills from ccp.

What is the purpose? Well obviously to give an alternative to the broken bounty system. People obviously still use the bounty system but what most people dont know is that pilots with large enough bounties(there are tons of them) just jump into a new clone with no implants and pod themselves with an alt to collect the money you just put on their head.

What do I expect to happen with this service? For the most part, I expect people to use it as a griefing service. I've seen corp members team kill other corp members for far less incentive. If you truly want to hurt someones feelings then place a decent bounty on them and you can almost guarantee they wont be flying anything shinny for a long time in fear the new corp member joined just to hunt him.

Issues: Does anyone see any immediate flaws or issues with this other then the obvious of getting people to use it? Please let me know. I plan to launch this within the week, if its something I believe people will want.

The only concern I have is: Why can't CCP come up with something like this? Because pretty much anything is better than the current bounties.

Time to provoke some bounties.

... You get bounty on my hitlist.
... You waste yourself with your alt and post api confirmed link
... Then you cry when you collect a bounty of %65 of the ship you lost.

Good job bro?

External site. Battleclinic.

2x wrong doesn't make it right.

How do you know who my alt is and who isnt?

Sounds like a scam.


If not a scam, sounds like a bad idea.


next.

IMHO, the biggest hole in the current bounty system is this: Whenever someone's bounty gets high enough, they just switch to a jump clone and have their own corpmate kill them, then they just split it. So if that bounty is worth more than their implants (see "jumpclone," previous) then they actually profit from getting bounties placed on them.

So the first step to straightening that out would be for CCP to tack on some much needed restrictions:

1) No one in the same corp or alliance can collect the bounty on a target.

2) No one allied to the same corp or alliance can collect the bounty on a target.

3) Account ownership is also checked between the killer and the target to make sure there is no relation between the two.

Next, expand option to show just how bad you want that person dead:

1) When placing bounty, declare whether it is on a specific ship that they own or their pod.

2) Allow stackable bounties. Meaning that you can place a million ISK on their ship, another million on their pod, and then another ISK on their next ship in line, theoretically unto eternity. So you really, really hated someone's guts you could put, say, fifteen consecutive bounties on their pods for the next fifteen times they get pod-killed.

3) Allow bounties to be placed on player corps and alliances, awarded to the first person who kills a ship or pod from those groups, regardless of which individual pilot is blasted. Combined with stacking (above) this could open up a whole new world of grief (i.e. "10,000,000ISK each for the next 100 ships of "X" corp blown up - and you know someone will do it, too).

Finally, and perhaps the most radical, is allow the creation of Bounty Hunter Licenses in game. Much like PLEX, this would be something is renewed from month to month, but unlike PLEX would be an ISK only item (no real cash need come into play, here). Said license holder would be authorized by CONCORD to attempt collection on any wanted criminals (i.e. bounty targets) anywhere, at any time, by any means, regardless of local system security level. Players with an active hunter license would see special icons for "wanted" in their Local Chat, just so they know who to chase.

Meaning: When that -4.9 guy with the hundred million ISK price on his head comes blazing through 0.5 space then every licensed bounty hunter in the system could open up on them without worrying about CONCORD intervention - within the limits of the existing bounties, of course, meaning that once all the bounty(ies) are collected, the criminal is off the hook (for now) and would no longer be a sanctioned target.

Important caveat: Bounty hunters would not be allowed to place bounties themselves, nor collect any bounties that they themselves placed while their license was inactive (along with all the original restrictions from the top of this post).

This would, I believe, create a whole new class of PvP specialist, namely the professional bounty hunter (obviously).

Now just to give the poor bastards a fighting chance, I would not be opposed to tacking on to the end of all this a special "hunter" flag on bounty hunter players that is visible to wanted criminals in their Local Chat area, just so they have some chance to run back home before the noose closes down on them (to go along with the hunter's own special icons, of course - it's only fair).

Thanks Haulie, a mature & thoughtful response is always worth reading and considering. And after reading and considering, I am now in agreeance with you.

A proper explanation. Im on board now as well. ( The CCP sanctioned ingame variant ofc)