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EVE Online: Escalation to Inferno Deployment Information

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-04-24 12:19:40 UTC
tEcHnOkRaT wrote:
WTF
they do everything but ship balancing
altough thats what players wont

No, that is what you want.

You do not speak for everybody else.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Daedra Blue
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2012-04-24 12:21:33 UTC
Love Love Lies wrote:
Daedra Blue wrote:


Fragile t3? I guess if you honor tank it maybe. T3 boosters is a blasphemy to command ships.



thats right genius, a t3 booster has no tank....ie fragile.

why do they have no tank (apparently you dont know) because in the mid slots they are bogged down with command processors and in the low slots they use cpu mods.

yes they are very fragile. very expensive and are tech 3.

they are also helpless in the sense they have no offensive capabilities.



So using all your slots for boosting makes it a awesome fit? Just because of the unfixed Off grid boosting stupidity?

Don't worry you wont have to put up with it for long. Next patch you can only ON Grid Boost so fit some guns and some tank if you want to boost.
Biactol
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-04-24 12:47:06 UTC
Hello...
Windows 8: "Unable to apply patch"
do you have a solution?
flapie 2
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#104 - 2012-04-24 12:47:38 UTC
Ikonia wrote:

Well, from my point of view its not of sense flying something thats bigger than a cruiser sized vessel. :) But at least the changes wont hit my market nor my ships tremendously, and from what ive seen i will benefit only, so no reason for complaining.


You mean that stabbers going for 10mil a pop isnt a tremendously change ??

Ikonia wrote:

Just bad for all the cap pilots & wormhole corps, pretty good for hisec miners and mission runners.

Cheers


Totally wrong tbh, all meta 0 loot has been removed hitting everyone that used that to produce the odd 1 or 2 ships/modules from it they needed, cause mining sucks from there point of view.
All high-sec miners will only be targets for the gankers, don't see why this would be good tbh, and all mission runners that had some extra income from having friends with skills reprocessing meta 0/1/2/3 items are now screwed cause meta 0 has been removed witch was a huge portion of the income needed to produce ships/modules, again cause they find mining iether boring or useless.

Me thinks you missed the whole point, and that's just a few things you got wrong in that post.
Daedra Blue
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2012-04-24 13:10:57 UTC
Just did a mission The Assault - Serpentis.

Here's the feedback:

-Ammo still drops -> Fail
-Drones still drop -> Fail
-Ship Scanner I still drops -> Because this group has no T0/M0 -> Fail.
-Also i don't see how 1 Scrap Metal replaces one lets say Mega Neutron Blaster I(refined) and how this is not a full blown nerf to NPC's everywhere.
OGO OGO
Cha-ching Inc
#106 - 2012-04-24 13:14:28 UTC
I cannot complete the download of the latest patch, it get's to around 75% each time and then the connection is reset, due to a dl timeout or something?

the patch file get's to about 166mb, no bigger, have ample disk space.

I've deleted the temp patch file, restarted the process a number of times and each time keeps on resetting the connection at around 75%.

my connection's stable and have no other connection speed issue. i've also noticed that just before it resets (at around 72%) the dl speed slow dramatically.

running win7
corei3
8gb ram
Ogogov
Arpy Corporation
#107 - 2012-04-24 13:32:42 UTC
Biactol wrote:
Hello...
Windows 8: "Unable to apply patch"
do you have a solution?


Don't run a developer preview as your OS?
Love Love Lies
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-04-24 13:48:10 UTC
Daedra Blue wrote:


So using all your slots for boosting makes it a awesome fit? Just because of the unfixed Off grid boosting ...


debating with this clueless troll is probably futile....


but yes if the purpose of your ship is to boost then you want to "buff" its boosting capabilities. this concept of buffing is not new. if your purpose is to do dps you buff dps, mods, rigs, implants etc... if you buff tank again mods rigs implants etc... generally you go with the pre buffed bonuses of the ship. one of the bonuses of the t3 is what....that is right fleeting boosting.

now to address your second point smart guy, boosting has always been possible off grid therefore it would be inappropriate and premature to call it "unfixed".

but i already got from you that you dont use and have never used a t3 booster thus dont know the capabilities, benefits, techniques etc..

just keep running your missions in hisec buddy.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#109 - 2012-04-24 14:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
flapie 2 wrote:
Ikonia wrote:

Well, from my point of view its not of sense flying something thats bigger than a cruiser sized vessel. :) But at least the changes wont hit my market nor my ships tremendously, and from what ive seen i will benefit only, so no reason for complaining.


You mean that stabbers going for 10mil a pop isnt a tremendously change ?

Ikonia wrote:

Just bad for all the cap pilots & wormhole corps, pretty good for hisec miners and mission runners

Cheers


Totally wrong tbh, all meta 0 loot has been removed hitting everyone that used that to produce the odd 1 or 2 ships/modules from it they needed, cause mining sucks from there point of view
All high-sec miners will only be targets for the gankers, don't see why this would be good tbh, and all mission runners that had some extra income from having friends with skills reprocessing meta 0/1/2/3 items are now screwed cause meta 0 has been removed witch was a huge portion of the income needed to produce ships/modules, again cause they find mining iether boring or useless

Me thinks you missed the whole point, and that's just a few things you got wrong in that post.


Maybe it is you who missed the point, that this patch is supposed to make mining more useful/profitable which it will.

You want mineral prices to drop, stop ganking miners, or start ganking the gankers. The safer miners feel the lower mineral prices will get. They are now the life blood of EVE and the primary source for minerals, as they should be.

The fact that so many modules were being manufactured from minerals reprocessed from meta 0 modules and drone POO was a problem, not a good thing. It was because of this that mining was useless and an under paid profession. This was a needed fix as the way things were was not how it was meant to be.

The crazy prices we have seen with minerals recently has been from market speculation and market manipulation by the more powerful traders. Not from the actual patch. We will see where things level out after the patch

I am sure if minerals level out at to high a price CCP will do something to drop it with a follow up patch. I expect some sort of mining buff/addition as mining has not received anything new in a very long time. I expect they wanted to wait, to see what the market impact of this change would be before deciding what if anything should be added to the mining profession. Personally I expect a buff to null sec mining as that will now be the primary source of high end minerals. A capital mining ship or even just a capital mining laser that could be fitted on a dread would be sweet

Controlling the mining yield is a much more predictable way to control mineral prices than having non mining sources of minerals in game. Mineral harvesting should be the job of miners, not mission runners and ratters.
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2012-04-24 16:18:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Gnaw LF
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Some people were wondering if wormhole corps would escape the nerf bat.

Well, now we know they won't.
In C5's and C6's you need to warp in cap ships to trigger the 4 different additional spawns of really tough, but lucrative Sleeper BS's.

People would use a mix of dreads and carriers.
With the doubling to 2000 on the sig radius, you can forget about a dread hitting a Sleeper BS.

Way to go CCP. You are really intent on removing every method of generating ISK in the game it seems.
Of course, except in null sec.

Looking forward to MORE inflation.
Guess no one told CCP that bounties create ISK, and mineral drops do not.
Do you think all those people in drone regions are just going to completely abandon their territory, and that all mission runners are going to skip all drone missions?

The way I look at it, you have likely nerfed about 4 trillion (out the orginal 9 trillion) from the Incursion ISK flow.
You have also nerfed out a goodly portion of ISK from wormholes (less Sleeper BS's dying = less stuff being cashed in with NPC buyers).
But you have given even more back with drone bounties versus mineral drops.

Really, a brilliant play CCP. More ISK in game chasing fewer minerals. Absolutely brilliant.



Learn how the game works, the w-space corps who are doing cap escalations will not be affected by the change. The XL turrets get 2000 sig radius, so out of siege their efficiency is reduced, but the removal of the -50% tracking penalty on Siege modules will return the formula to the same exact ratio. Thus, sieged dreads will retain their DPS output. Also, you must be insane if you think w-space ISK generation deserves a nerf, not only is it limited to sites in the system, it is also the most risky method of isk generation out there.
Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#111 - 2012-04-25 10:45:27 UTC
raven415 wrote:
Loot Table Changes Show Some Industrialist Love

NPC ships will no longer drop manufacturable T1 loot. NPCs will continue to drop modules, however T1 items which have a blueprint will no longer drop, making player manufacturing the primary source for these items.

how is this industrial love ? who uses t1 meta 0 for anything but melting down for minerals ? how about damaged mods that the npcs were using.


they are used as a base part of their T2 counterpart
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2012-04-25 11:07:41 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:

later in the year


What?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...