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House of Murder, public release to IGS. Speech: "Tests of Faith"
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2012-04-24 20:06:30 UTC
Mensha Khael Crow wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Mensha Khael Crow wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Rather than simply saying saying "we have failed" how about asking what you can do to prevent future failure?


If you feel you have an answer to that question, I will look forward to hearing it.


I think that my track record says that I've been among the more successful Amarriam loyalists over the last nine years. I will continue to lead PIE to the best of my abilities and seek to repeat past victories.

The question is: what will you do apart from carp from the sidelines about how everyone else is a bit rubbish?



I will note you did not have an answer. Perhaps you can tell me from where I and the C0URT are in sidelines from? Hopefully this will be more than mere recruitment effort into the 24th Crusade, as Amarrian part of the militias conflict is commonly known.

What we will not be doing is to discuss strategic goals publicly.

I am certain that person with your intrest in safeguarding the Empire will have noted our initiated efforts in securing freedom of some of our non-capsuleer brethren. Sadly a speedy and less forceful solution was declined in negotiations.

M.K.Crow.


In other words, you're going to be doing nothing to help the situation.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Mensha Khael Crow
House Murder
#22 - 2012-04-24 20:40:36 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

In other words, you're going to be doing nothing to help the situation.


So you sought to challenge C0URT and thereby have us join the 24th Crusade.

If the militias conflict is indeed the only situation you see to be effected and this the only way you would seek our official presence in that particular matter. Then I dare say we will have little intrest in doing so.

Should you find something you find to be an argument or suggestion in favour of joining the Crusade, that shall ofcourse merit further evaluation.

M.K.Crow
Our righteousness is evident in the failures of the heathen, God keep us from falling prey to their weaknesses.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2012-04-24 21:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Mensha Khael Crow wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

In other words, you're going to be doing nothing to help the situation.


So you sought to challenge C0URT and thereby have us join the 24th Crusade.

If the militias conflict is indeed the only situation you see to be effected and this the only way you would seek our official presence in that particular matter. Then I dare say we will have little intrest in doing so.

Should you find something you find to be an argument or suggestion in favour of joining the Crusade, that shall ofcourse merit further evaluation.

M.K.Crow


On the contrary, there are many ways to serve the Empire and not all of them involve joining the Crusade.

But I've yet to see any evidence that you're doing any of them.

So tell us - what have you or Lord of Murder ever done to aid the Empire?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Mensha Khael Crow
House Murder
#24 - 2012-04-24 22:07:34 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:


So tell us - what have you or Lord of Murder ever done to aid the Empire?



Here. I will do three things right now.

1. I will assume you are merely challenging actions done as a CONCORD sanctioned capsuleer.

2. I will take a day from public discussion of this matter, at the end of this message.

3. I will advice mine against any action on this matter within that time.

Perhaps you shall find something wise to do in that time admiral. In addition I note Jayal and Semou might benefit from your service to the Empire.

M.K.Crow
Our righteousness is evident in the failures of the heathen, God keep us from falling prey to their weaknesses.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-04-24 22:40:33 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Rather than simply saying saying "we have failed" how about asking what you can do to prevent future failure?


Oh, well, I have a few ideas...

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-04-24 23:25:13 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
... many Amarrians one meets are going to swear up and down that the Empire and its leaders over the years are faultless, can do no wrong, and never make poor decisions. Because of this, there's a bit of a perception that it seems "un-Amarrian" for an Amarrian to suggest in public that "yeah, we screwed up"...


And those Amarrians, Morwen, are what I like to call delusional.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#27 - 2012-04-25 13:40:56 UTC
Uraniae Fehrnah wrote:
Morwen Lagann wrote:
... many Amarrians one meets are going to swear up and down that the Empire and its leaders over the years are faultless, can do no wrong, and never make poor decisions. Because of this, there's a bit of a perception that it seems "un-Amarrian" for an Amarrian to suggest in public that "yeah, we screwed up"...


And those Amarrians, Morwen, are what I like to call delusional.


It isn't exactly delusional to toe the party line in public, and then speak out against it in private company. That's just being sensible with respect to your own social standing.

Delusional better describes the people who hold the quoted viewpoint even in private and whose lives are measurably made worse by holding that viewpoint. If maintaining the status quo benefits you, it isn't delusional to support it both publicly and in private.

That's just common sense.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque
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