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a capital mining barge?
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orndon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-04-23 05:46:38 UTC
what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#2 - 2012-04-23 07:03:08 UTC
why? so you would want to make more profit?

next step would be - everybody flies this ship and you wouldn't make that much profit with it.

more people mining more ore = prices drop, so you're not making that much profit anymore.

bad idea
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-04-23 07:11:30 UTC
a capital mining ship would be a super carrier using harvester drones and drone mining rigs
Dave stark
#4 - 2012-04-23 08:33:30 UTC
I would only support a larger class of mining ship if all of the bonuses were in terms of tank/utility and NOT mining yield.

solo mining in a hulk can pull in 5.1k m3 per cycle (without drones). a hulk pulls in 5.6k m3 if you're giving yourself the 10% mining bonus for being a fleet booster or whatever (a feature i regularly use when solo mining and there are some kind people around ratting that don't mind being in a fleet with me, hey it's still solo mining!)

there's no justification for a mining ship with more yield, there is justification for one with a bigger tank or access to some kind of utility, however. perhaps a role bonus relating to the degredation of mining crystals?
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#5 - 2012-04-23 08:42:08 UTC
Imo strap addidtional mining turret slots on rorqual, 3 of them, and make the siege mode mine at 3x efficiency.

You can boast that on belts if you want to, win-win for all.
stoicfaux
#6 - 2012-04-23 12:42:56 UTC
A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-04-23 13:11:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
stoicfaux wrote:
A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.


it sounds pretty sane imo. not only would it get combat ship prices down, thus encouraging more pvp, it would also provide further incentive to actually mine in 0.0 instead of 0.5.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Drakos Vala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-23 13:37:04 UTC
suppose it would allow the gankbears something new to play with.
Skorpynekomimi
#9 - 2012-04-23 14:01:26 UTC
Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules.
That's what I think a mining capital should be.

Economic PVP
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-23 14:08:50 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules.
That's what I think a mining capital should be.

i'd throw in ~20% more yield in there for good measure

I should buy an Ishtar.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#11 - 2012-04-23 14:15:26 UTC
make it a tech II carrier... make fighter like mining drones... give the ship bonus to these drones and presto you have a deep null sec mining ship...

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Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#12 - 2012-04-23 14:37:04 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.



Make it so it can't warp while strip miners are active and its a deal Blink
Lord Dravius
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-23 22:34:34 UTC
orndon wrote:
what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize

There already is a capital mining barge; Chribba's veldnought.
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-23 23:08:16 UTC
Put in 5 medium guns on top of the three strip-miners.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#15 - 2012-04-23 23:23:44 UTC
Don't forget to add immunity to all E-War.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Boomhaur
#16 - 2012-04-24 01:40:43 UTC
Didn't Chribba beat all of you already with Titan's mining and the Veldnaught.

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Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-24 03:15:20 UTC
I propose a capital mining ship that has to go into seige mod for 10 minutes, can't be remote assited while seiged, and mines double that of a hulk. Oh, and costs as much as a rorqual. This ship will only be able to move via jumpdrive, and has the fitting of a cruiser...

/me hides my blackops ship fleets...

-Arazel
Judor
Tough Love Logistics
#18 - 2012-04-24 05:03:23 UTC
I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward.
AstarothPrime
Pecunia Infinita
#19 - 2012-04-24 08:06:58 UTC
I would second that. No need for extra yield so it dont screw up economy. Let it be carrier sized, yield 20-30% more then a hulk, have carrier size tank and 200-300k m3 worth of ore hold. Ofc it couldnt be able to traverse hisec pretty much like rorqal cant.

I.
Hemmo Paskiainen
#20 - 2012-04-24 08:47:55 UTC
dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....

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