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UGLY SHIPS - Caldari / Minmatar
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Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
#1 - 2012-04-22 21:07:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Fortis88
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-04-22 21:32:29 UTC
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.


Cardari are suposed to look hightech, and mimmatar rusty.

If they are gold or organic, they would be ammar or gallente.

Everything should not look like everything else, not suck yes. Same, no.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-04-22 21:53:38 UTC
How does it go?

In rust we trust.
Lord Dravius
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-23 01:41:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Dravius
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.


Cardari are suposed to look hightech, and mimmatar rusty.

If they are gold or organic, they would be ammar or gallente.

Everything should not look like everything else, not suck yes. Same, no.

Minmatar can still look rusty without looking like they're made of scaffolding and screen doors. Caldari's bulky and boxy is pretty much the opposite of a high tech look.
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
#5 - 2012-04-23 03:02:55 UTC
Lord Dravius wrote:
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.


Cardari are suposed to look hightech, and mimmatar rusty.

If they are gold or organic, they would be ammar or gallente.

Everything should not look like everything else, not suck yes. Same, no.

Minmatar can still look rusty without looking like they're made of scaffolding and screen doors. Caldari's bulky and boxy is pretty much the opposite of a high tech look.




I agree. Minmatar and Caldari ships can be improved while still holding onto their cultural essence.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2012-04-24 10:51:09 UTC
Looks are of no real importance, effectiveness is the only real measure of a ships worth. That said I can't say I've come across a ship in EvE that I dislike the look of.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-25 20:33:31 UTC
Many ships are ugl
many ships are useles

many ships fit into both those classe

my list is different then your list, which is different then his list,


I have never really liked any of the caldari designs, some of the minmatar ships are likeable (the more i fly them), and gallente have their own issues, Amarr tend to look the most polished and built ships, its jsut unfortunate that they are all penis shaped

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#8 - 2012-04-30 21:25:08 UTC
I'd worry about how they fly before I worry about how they look.

There are plenty of useless ships, underpowered ships, and overpowered ships. Ships that have their role bonus ignored, and ships that are ignored altogether.

Given the choice between new ship models, and new ship stats, I choose new ship stats.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Corian Teranos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-03 20:28:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Corian Teranos
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.



Minmatar ships ARE!!! put together with ducktape their designs are Supposed to look primitive. personally i like the aged distressed look
Uronksur Suth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-05-06 22:21:45 UTC
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape.


That is literally the idea. Goes with being a nation of ex-slaves coming up with whatever sort of design works.

Fortis88 wrote:

Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly?


Except for shuttles... no. Why would that ever be a consideration?

Fortis88 wrote:

In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.


Nothing is stopping the Caldari and Minmatar pilots from training Amarr and Gallente command skills.


Face it: the Minmatar are a nation of barely escaped ex-slaves who cobbled together a Navy to fend off being thrown back into chains by largest of the Empires. They aren't really that big into aesthetics. The Caldari are a corporate meritocracy of what is efficient and what works and what maximizes the corporate profit margin; not being pretty.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-07 09:51:48 UTC
Uronksur Suth wrote:

Face it: the Minmatar are a nation of barely escaped ex-slaves who cobbled together a Navy to fend off being thrown back into chains by largest of the Empires. They aren't really that big into aesthetics. The Caldari are a corporate meritocracy of what is efficient and what works and what maximizes the corporate profit margin; not being pretty.



Bring in the Borg (Caldari) Cube :)


Personaly I like lots of the Caldari and Minmatar designs.

Okay the Moa is but ugly, but the Merlin, Hookbill, Kestrel, Caracal, Drake, Ferox, Tengu, Scorpion, Rokh, Bager and Rhea are nice looking ships if you ask me.
Morgan Dinn
Imperial Mechanics
#12 - 2012-05-07 10:52:14 UTC
Fortis88 wrote:
What's the deal CCP? How come my Caldari frigates look like chewed up bubble gum? The only ones that are remotely cool are the Kestrel and the Merlin. And Minmatar? I feel sorry for them. Their ships look like they were put together with duck tape. Except for the Rifter of course. Why do we only get 1 out of 5 that looks good? Shouldnt all the ships look appealing to fly? In your 2012 Fanfest presentation you said that you are revamping some ship designs in the upcoming Inferno patch. Hopefully all of the Caldari and Minmatar will be re-designed. We would like to fly spaceships like everyone else. Cough cough.


lets not

and yes the bombers designs will be changed. The new models where shows on fan fest and also they will add the new "skin" to all ships in time. Makes them look nices but the same.

But a definetly no to redesign all minnie / cal ships... it's like saying lets redo all the ships in the game.

Plus i wanna fly a huge space turd some day... aka Revenant
Paintchk
Facepunch Industries
#13 - 2012-05-08 12:44:02 UTC
*Adds more duck tape too Hurricane* Problem? Cool