EVE New Citizens Q&A

It's a breach of the EULA

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp

6.A.3:
You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.



It's about a level playing field. Cheating is bad, K?




oh, ib4l.

p.s. Dev/ISD people. can you badger the web team to set the clauses up as hyperlinkable?

If you don't see any problems with bots then you really haven't thought it over or you did and figured it'd be useful to you. Either way, it's not allowed here.

You're right, it's a program used to mine AFK. It's unfair to normal users and it floods the market with minerals and ruins the prices due to over saturation of the market. It's bad for legitimate players and bad for the economy.

If AFK mining in highsec with an Itty and a scanner isn't lazy enough...

Blow them up. If their pod continues doing the same thing over and over again, it's a bot.

Any attempt at inferring whether someone is a bot by watching their activity will be confounded by EVE effectively being a reverse Turing test. So blow them up, and watch their behaviour once their ship has been removed.

I once found someone in 0.0 who sent a "o/" every time someone entered the system. It never replied to any response to the o/.
It got pretty silly when a fleet jumped in ... or when you took the wrong turn and had to jump back.

Pro tip: always bot on a null sec pipe

The problem with botting is that it's a downward spiral. Bots don't care about the price of their workforce. If ore prices drop a botter will add more bots to compensate. As a result mineral prices drop further and PLEX prices rise. What does the botter do? Add more bots.

Legit players don't enjoy mining because you have to do it for hours on end to make any decent money, what is a result of botting. For years CCP didn't really do anything about botters. Then, about 2 month ago they started to ban bots daily. Mineral prices nearly doubled.

Economies in games are fragile. Bots can tilt the balance in free to play game real quick. And from the standpoint of a botter EVE is free to play, no matter how the PLEX price looks like.

And guess what I'm a miner.

But I never mine at the exact same location each and every time, I have multiple bookmarks in different belts to cover all possible roids. Bots tend to use 1 or 2 bookmarks every single time.

As for picking, yet true. But then again in high-sec the difference isn't that great in ISK/hour ratio.

And yes for Cat/thrasher I will warp out, but I know mining bots that warp out even if targeted by a shuttle, wait 5 min and come back

A normal miner would either move location or scout ahead first to see if it's safe, a bot doesn't. Bots usually wait an x amount of time and then warp back to the belt to continue.

to your first mark, yes with orca boosts etc a miner can cover most belts from 1 spot.

And I NEVER said that using 1 or 2 bookmarks makes you a bot, I said that if a player keeps using only 1 spot over and over again with an obvious programmed way of doing stuff it CAN be a bot. And never said that 1 or 2 bookmarks is what makes you a bot, I said that a bot only uses 1 or 2 bookmarks in total and never changes / moves to others.

Although you use 1 or 2 bookmarks everytime you go out mining you do things a little bit different from the previous time. This is something a bot never does, it does the exact same thing every single time over and over again. You can spot bots by looking in which order they mine stuff, how they move around through belts or bookmarks (doesn't make it 100% secure, but it does make it more likely).

And for your second point, EXACTLY like I said, YOU scout ahead if it's clear, a bot DOESN'T. Damn looks like EVE playerbase is getting more dumb by the day and can't read anymore.

As said earlier:
If you blow it's ship, the bot will continue to mine... well sort of, but you can be fairly sure that a pod warping back and forth from station to belt, isn't a dumb player.

Anything else can't be proving anything, if the guy decided not to answer local, refuses convos, doesn't prove it's a bot, just proves some asocial people pay a monthly sub to play with rocks alone, building their own micro-corp orca boosted mining fleet and feel satisfied making **** ISK in highsec, but then, it's enough motivation for some people to get a KM.

Also, while pretending to hunt bots, some destroyers... well... destroy *coughs* exhumers. It's the game... one can argue whether it's skillful or not to pack enough in a volley to alpha those boats, but "heh... just checked if you were a bot"