Crime & Punishment

CCP has already taken steps to tone down the level of ganking. The problem is that the ganking community revolts and rages against this and only goes out and ganks more. I agree with Bugsy completely, griefing is a part of any game, its the internet for gods sake! If we continue to escalate the level of ganking CCP will be FORCED to drop the hammer. THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!! The minute CCP is forced to make a decision between open sandbox environment and safe high sec is the day that things have gone too far. The ganking community will have no one to blame but themselves. Law enforcement must step up their game to combat new threats.

Our system of law has a very similar progression. You start off with taking small freedoms, and giving up things that no one really cares about. Then in small steps you expand the scope of said law base and before you know it, you have SOPA.

Short answer: If you continue to escalate the level of ganking CCP WILL take action. We have seen this happen in other pvp centric games and the solution is NEVER awesome. Please, please don't force their hand in this.

Vexx

I'm sorry that you got killed in a spaceship game that revolves around killing.

It happens because to this day some people still load their Exhumers with faction & officer mods, which gives them a false sense of invincibility.

For the love of DIETY, stop throwing around Cyberbullying when used in a group context; The word doesn't mean squat in a game where, right out of the gate, you're told that the game allows piracy/scams/etc. It only becomes that when they single you out (like if I were to follow a single person around, ganking them everywhere they went). If it's between groups, it's called politics and you move on with your life.

Also, if you're really getting stressed out, press the X button. It's a video game.

Yet another problem I see.. is that you don't see them as people. Sure there are bots, but countless players that mine do it actively alongside other people.

lol, good post there.

A bunch of ubervirgins got banned from 4CHAN for being too socially repulsive, so they all migrated over to EvE and formed their own alliance of greatly overrated, obnoxious, narcissistic, stupid, worthless, arrogant, rotund malcontents.




A very interesting theory, and a sound one if but for one fatal flaw - it assumes that people, including and most especially the gankers, have more brains than Mother Nature gave to a jellyfish.

I think we both know better.

Sure, there may indeed be some portion of the ganker demographic that runs their own mining/industry alts, and are doing what they do simply to leverage themselves into an economically advantageous position by eliminating the competition. This is a valid strategy, and in a sense I can respect that. It's just good business.

Then there is the demographic of pew-pew basement dwellers who got picked on in high school for being too fat/acne ridden/smelly/short/whatever who now find their only two pleasures in life comes from 1) Feeling like Real Big Men from ganking people who can't even shoot back and 2) Furry "erotic art." They don't care about the economy, they don't care about supply and demand, nor do they care about anything except finally having found an alternate reality where they get to be the schoolyard bully instead.

Care to guess the ratio between the two?

And it is no surprise that older players with millions of skill points invested in their combat skills feel that it's "just not fair" that they can't go waltzing into 1.0 max security space and blow up newbies with complete impunity. "Where is my sandbox?" they cry. It is hilarious the arguments that these people will make, all in the name of "balance," to slant game mechanics entirely in their own favor.

Meanwhile...

It's like this, people: There are already lots of places on the map where you can go pew-pew each other to your Twinkie filled heart's content. It's called low-sec. If that's not good enough for you then there is null-sec. If that isn't good enough for you, there is wormhole space. Take a look at the map and count the number of blue & green dots compared to the number of orange and red dots. You already own more than 75% of the entire galaxy to be your own personal PvP playground.

But oh no, that's not good enough, you want hi-sec too! Why? Oh don't bother, we already know why. The other PvPers out there in the red zones are simply too much for you. You can't hack in the real PvP world so you want to head over into hi-sec and thump on some newbies and unarmed mining ships to help your flaccid e-peen to feel big again. And when we tell you to get lost you cry "Carebare." Sorry, but the real carebare is obvious: Yourselves. You want CCP to make it easier for you. You don't want the real fight out in hard-core death space where all the real monsters of PvP live. You want nice, safe, easy PvP against people you know that you can beat... the kind of people who stay in hi-sec specifically to avoid exactly these kinds of nitwits.

Yes, hi-sec "carebares" don't want to get PvPed against their will, especially when flying unarmed ships. That's why they're in hi-sec and not in low/null-sec. This is the choice they make. But it's not the choice you want, because then you can't go clubbing seals to get your chest-thumping horah on. Instead you might have to (gasp!) actually go into those dangerous places yourself and get mauled by your own kind. Fair fight? A real challenge? Noooooo, CCP protect us! We can't fight real opponents, take away hi-sec so we can go beat up on people who can't fight back! Waaaah! No, no, these aren't tears, they're welts of testosterone pouring from my eyes because I'm such a He-Man! What, CCP is going to start arming mining ships?! I'm unsubbing!

Why CCP would cater to people like this is beyond me, because their only purpose is to drive away their other customers. With that in mind, they'd be better off putting up a solid wall of CONCORD between hi-sec and null-sec. Then the miners won't be complaining about gankers and the gankers could actually learn how to do real PvP for a change. It's just good business sense, and I can respect that.

So the gankers are all little pets of those, which try to monopolize these materials, espacially moon-goo?