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Its time to nerf technetium
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-04-21 21:26:57 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
Then hisec incursions need to be removed too. No player should be able to make 20 to 30 billion isk a month easily and risk free in hisec.

Yes but incursion are getting first stage of nerf and bandages just 3 days from now , while tech moons suppose to be left at least for another 6 months to bleed eve of meaningful experience.

How are they bleeding Eve of meaningful experience? Does that mean you are one of the people in an alliance that doesnt hold any? They arnt even that important in reality. You know you can make billions with a couple of sets of reaction moons anyway right? Its not as though alliances are given the moons, they fight to take tehm, and fight to keep them on a daily basis and teh isk from them is used on literally thousands of players upkeep in alliances.

I actually always thought they were fairly big things, goes to show how accutare EVE-O forums are.

Not like I'd find out by asking the people who do it, probably way too complicated for me to understand all the logistics of it.

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Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-04-21 21:46:33 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Why not add Ring Mining THEN consider R32 alchemy if that doesn't work?

ISK should go to players who log in and do stuff


r32 alchemy comes first because it is much easier and less costly to implement as compared to making a completely new mining mechanic.

The mechanics needed for r32 alchemy already exist in the game. What is left to do is some math and adding the new alchemy reactions to the game.

If r32 alchemy doesn't dissolve the bottleneck enough, then add the new mining mechanic for moon minerals.

Got to go after the low-hanging fruit first.
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-21 22:01:22 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Then hisec incursions need to be removed too. No player should be able to make 20 to 30 billion isk a month easily and risk free in hisec.


And do such players give their isk voluntarily to their alliance, most don't. Sure, there are a few out there that will give their wealth to keep an alliance going, but such an alliance isn't going to be very competitive with one that doesn't rely on such charity.

A player will whine and moan when you take their isk from them (delicious tearz), but a moon doesn't complain when you take it's precious minerals from it. A moon is a far more reliable source of income than most players.

When the care bears of an alliance get ganked by the enemy does the alliance head really care, no... not really. When their trusty tech moon is under attack does the alliance head really care, maybe... that's when the supers typically come out to play.

Does an alliance care that you make 20 bil isk a month, no. Does an alliance care when you attack their tech moon, maybe. Cool
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#24 - 2012-04-21 22:10:30 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:

It is time to act NOW.

[...]

It is ridiculous situation.


Well there you have it.

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)
Leza Bo ManHater
Pyramid Celestial
#25 - 2012-04-21 22:13:45 UTC
posting in a boohoo i dont know how to make isk so i will complain about tech thread
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-21 22:16:27 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Leza Bo ManHater wrote:
posting in a boohoo i dont know how to make isk so i will complain about tech thread


Not empty quoting stupid troll
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-04-21 22:17:53 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:


How are they bleeding Eve of meaningful experience? Does that mean you are one of the people in an alliance that doesnt hold any? They arnt even that important in reality. You know you can make billions with a couple of sets of reaction moons anyway right? Its not as though alliances are given the moons, they fight to take tehm, and fight to keep them on a daily basis and teh isk from them is used on literally thousands of players upkeep in alliances.


Lear to read !!!!

In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-21 22:23:43 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:


How are they bleeding Eve of meaningful experience? Does that mean you are one of the people in an alliance that doesnt hold any? They arnt even that important in reality. You know you can make billions with a couple of sets of reaction moons anyway right? Its not as though alliances are given the moons, they fight to take tehm, and fight to keep them on a daily basis and teh isk from them is used on literally thousands of players upkeep in alliances.


Lear to read !!!!

In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.
In order for alliance to fight for tech moon they need huge supercap fleet.
In order to have huge supercap fleet alliances need to have tech moons.


Really? We dont have a huge supercap fleet yet we have quite a nice supply of tech moons. Most moons are taken using conventional (but very large) subcap fleets. I know, Ive been on many pos takedowns as well as defences. Clearly you havnt.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-04-21 22:26:09 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
They arnt even that important in reality.


Rico Minali wrote:
they fight to take tehm, and fight to keep them on a daily basis and teh isk from them is used on literally thousands of players upkeep in alliances.


Contradicting statements? I think so.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-04-21 22:32:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Rico Minali
Elzon1 wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
They arnt even that important in reality.


Rico Minali wrote:
they fight to take tehm, and fight to keep them on a daily basis and teh isk from them is used on literally thousands of players upkeep in alliances.


Contradicting statements? I think so.


Actually no, not if you also take into account everything else that was said rather than a nicely edited set of unrelated statements. Currently technetium is used to fund alliances simply because it is there. If you nerf it, you wont take away alliances ability to make the isk, simply change how they make that isk.

At the moment tech is the most convenient way, it isnt the only way. Same can be said for many things in eve, so if you nerf tech (and im not saying DONT nerf tech) the whiners will simply start to call for nerfs on whatever next thing becomes the way alliances support themselves.

Remember, alliances support thousands of people, they need a large income source. Its annoying how many people seem to think that alliance heads are lining some personal wallets with tens of billions of isk.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-21 22:34:22 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:


Lear to read !!!!



Learn to rite!!!!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-04-21 22:39:45 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:

At the moment tech is the most convenient way, it isnt the only way.

nerf renting
Leza Bo ManHater
Pyramid Celestial
#33 - 2012-04-21 22:59:13 UTC
posting in a i have a jita price checker alt so that makes me leet isk marketeer thread
Leza Bo ManHater
Pyramid Celestial
#34 - 2012-04-21 22:59:33 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:

At the moment tech is the most convenient way, it isnt the only way.

nerf renting


nerf learing
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