EVE General Discussion

Wouldn't wiki format provide more useful environment than google doc to set up something like this? I've seen player made wikis for other games where players have made bug lists and such and then devs are using those lists to improve their game.

The document is already 40 pages long and I expect it to get hundreds of pages eventually - nice read but scrolling gets annoying after a while.

If this list keeps popping up on the first few pages of the forum, eventually they'll will.
Problem with wikis is that they take much more effort to maintain and update and people are less likely to join the initiative as an editor. Though when the G-Doc list becomes too long, we might take steps to make it more manageable.

Your idea has definitely some merit and I'll add it to the list, though personally I think it's fine as it is. Too many people make the mistake of thinking they need high value learning implants or else they can't enjoy the game. I do think newbies getting podded and losing their valuable kick-starter implant is a bit problematic though.

Has anyone noticed how faulty the Jaguar/Wolf turret positions are? It has been so ever since the Incarna expansion when the turrets were renovated. I know this is just one kind of ship, but other than me other people who like flying these ships may think the same as well.

If you look at a Jaguar:

1st turret slot places 2 turrets at the front and another turret on top at the back.
2nd turret slot places a turret an each ''wing'', at the sides of the ship.
But the 3rd turret slot places 2 turrets underneath the hull; it would have to shoot through its own hull to shoot above it.

Ever since that expansion, you could put turrets in any order you liked. That means you could just put a turret on the last turret slot of a Jaguar. If you did, you would see that just those 2 turrets underneath the hull would have trouble shooting anything above it without trying shooting through its own hull...

The Wolf basically has the same problem. It has the same turret layout as the Jaguar except it also has the extra 2 turrets on top of the hull at the back, because of the extra turret slot it has. Again, these turrets would have to shoot through its own hull to shoot anything below it, as well as above it for the 2 turrets underneath the hull.

The Rifter seems fine...because of the turret layout it has it won't have its turrets shooting through its hull. But lets be honest, the turret on top on the right and the turret underneath on the left, looks awful; especially for a symmetrical ship.

You may be thinking...why would you not use all available turret slots for these small ships. Thing is, as much fitting variety that EVE has, the option of not using all turret slots for whatever reason still exists, and such can create strange firing arcs if that's the case.

I think the original turret layout for these ships were better (and made more sense), despite the lack of a turret to shoot above with the 2 turrets at the front. I understand that this is only somewhat of a minor, potential graphical issue, but its still kind of annoying.

WiS dancing...


J/k


Saved for later update in an epic threadnaught.

New update. The suggestions in the earlier posts about the Jaguar&Wolf turrets placement, portrait refreshing and 'close' removal from channels, have all been added.

SMALL THINGS!

Interface (st)

● Make the time-dilation icon show on all affected system on a cluster, not only the one causing it
● Option to set overheating for a module last only one cycle when activated
● When adding a new default bookmark, have it automatically add the nearest celestial object in the name, instead of the useless ‘spot in’ [system]
● Add more optional custom tabs to the overview
● Make entries entries in the wallet journal and wallet tab clickable links to type, location and client
● Allow looking upwards when docked in a station
● Allow sorting the browser history by date last visited
● Add ‘put timer to calendar’, with option for the corp calendar, in the context menu when clicking on a reinforced POS
● Allow drag&drop linking of modules from the fitting window
● Add the option for channels to disable the ‘close’ button to prevent closing them accidentally (like Local and Corp)

Mechanics (st)

● Make the transition into TiDi more fluent instead of hitting a lag spike first
● Require corporations to pay a monthly registration fee of 10M ISK, if they miss 3 payments they are automatically disbanded and both the name and the ticker become free to be used by a new corporation.
● Add ‘single-ore’ gravimetric sites for other ores then just Omber
● Merge the skill queue window back into the skill tab of the character window. Add the 24 hour completion bar above the skills list and just below it a folded tab that can be expanded to show the currently queued skills. Keep the option to open the skill queue in a separate window as it is now though.
● Add auto-bid function with a specified max bid to the auction contract market (similar as on eBay)
● Add the option to assign a shortcut to ‘open cargo’ on locked targets
● Allow setting jobs remotely at a POS using the supply chain management and scientific networking skills

Visual & Audio (st)

● Rename ‘loading’ for the Captain’s Quarter into ‘Pod Debarking’ or something a string of likely activities
● Give the Curse its antennas back from the original T2 model before the V3 shader
● Fix the turret locators on the Jaguar and the Wolf models to have it make more sense
● Option to manually force the game to refresh updated portraits of players

Other (st)

● Make the ship’s engine-trails appear scattered or fluttery when a ship’s webified

BIGGER THINGS!

Mechanics (bt)
● Add an ingame chatlog viewer
● Add the option for stations to hire a ‘locker’ type of hangar. These are weekly-rented hangars both by players and by corporations, visible for all guests, but only accessible by players with the password and/or high enough standings towards the owner. The locker has an transfer log, and if the locker’s rent is cancelled or runs out, all items inside the locker are either returned to the original owners if it was player-rented or put into impounded if it was corp-rented
● Remove perfect local from null-sec and add an anchorable module that consumes fuel that tracks all players in local that entered or through a jumpgate, speak in local, or is target-locked. Once tracked, players leaving the system by any means, will be registered correctly.
● Remove perfect local from null-sec and add a POS-module, fitting requirements requiring its own large POS, showing all players entering and leaving the system through any means (excluding covert jump portal).
● A high-slot 'scambling' module hiding a player’s presence in local and from local-count, but also removing his ability to see others in local. This module comes in different sizes for each ship-class and consumes considerable cap, or cap charges. It can not be combined with a cloak.

Visuals & Audio (bt)
● Allow viewing the contents of fuel bays of a POS in the ‘in space’ tab
● Add different corporate levels of viewing access for ‘in space’ assets, so POS can be more hidden

UNBALANCED THINGS!

Mechanics (ubt)
● Black Ops should have a slight increase in jump range.
● Rebalance the material specifications of T2 ships that made Technetium, a R32 moon, more valuable than half a dozen of the rarest R64 moons combined
● Replace all T2 BPO’s with BPC worth 6 months of production. The owners have been able to profit of them effortlessly for long enough and they make it completely impossible for T2 researchers to make profit with low-volume products.

More Standings slots
Standings subscription

I fly NRDS and follow the CVA KOS list. Each day i log in and see a mail with standings update.

The alliance adds all KOS from the KOS list and they are limited to around 2400 standings slots the my corp has 1068 standings slots. Every time alliance slots get full, I get a mail with new ppl/corps/alliances to add to corp standings. When our list get's full we send a list to corp members. Think the KOS list is between 5000 and 15000 entries

I use 1-2 hours of game time every week storting standings. Not fun
I see no reason whatsoever for me doing the excact same standings cleanup as the ceo's/diplos/directors in the 11 other corps in our alliance and that's just us. what about all the others that follow this KOS list, they are doing the excact same things - I wonder how many ppl are cleaning standings instead of playing the game?

I'd like more slots (perhaps bougth from "central computing corp"/concord) and with more i mean unlimited.

The ability to subscribe to standings. Most of my null sec time i'd been following the standings of some larger entity - it would be brilliant if I could "subscribe" to their standings ie. follow CVA standings/ KOS list check this box. (a more computer savy person might have a good way of doing this)

-CM

You give much effort and love to your entire thread and i respect this.

Lot of good ideas and ano matter if some are form other topics, but sadly CCP cant handle it, they cant handle even few of these ideas, they need like next 15 years to introduce your ideas into game.

This stuf belong to EVE ONLINE II, to other company who can handle it, after buyout whole CCP company, is to much for CCP they can only broke stuf, all what they mastery is ignoring own comunity, and delivery beta projects existed only in experimental field to TQ.

Why would the sov holder want to pay for players killing NPC?


I've seen plenty of null-sec players comment on it being to absurdly easy to regain security standing in null. And while complete removal of security gain from ratting in null would be over the top, lowering it compared to low-sec gain would be a decent idea with overall favorable results. I'll add it.

on Alliance lvl - around 2500 is the cap not sure tho. I'm not alliance diplo, only corp.
on Corp lvl - 1024 is the cap
on personal lvl - no clue guessing around 500.

the proposal is two parts tho:

1. more standings slots - i use 2-3 hours pr. week on sorting standings at corp lvl. and sending names to personal lvl.
2. a way to subscribe to a standings set by an entity - ex. if I fly with CVA NRDS in Provi i subscribe to CVA standings and don't have to be arsed with setting standings.

also i'd like to add the option of localized standings.
example:
corp x has corp y set as red due to allinace standings.
corp x runs a POS chain in corp y lowsec area.
corp x makes a blue agreement with corp y in the lowsec systems around their POS chain but everywhere else they are still red.

Exactly my point. Game mechanics shouldn't be a hindrance to the way you choose to play. Instead Game mechanics should "help" you achive your goals.

In my opinion standings works as bad for NRDS as a max of 5 active war dec's would for a merc corp.

@Telkin - I like NRDS gameplay, so it's worth it for me, sux but worth it - but that's besides the point :)