EVE General Discussion

yeah but then I have to scan and stuff, plus the guys living there know how to use d-scan

i just want to right-click set destination to a 0.0 system, warp to belt and kill a hulk

screw you nullbear for crapping on my dreams

Local being removed as a source of intel is part of the :5-year-plan: for null.

Stay tuned.

That "strong interest in no local" came from a very small handful of players and their army of alts.

CCP generally doesn't bow to the wims of a tiny minority and their terribad ideas, regardless how loud they an their alts cry.

good fights don't often happen when one side is trying ot gtfo and the other side just happens to catch them before they can get out.

Your comments about match button made it seem you agreed with the obvious point that local help finding good fights.

But now I see you consider only situations where only one side wants a fight. Those generally aren't good fights.

Again if you only see pvp in eve as ganks then yeah removing local will help pvp - until all the pvers move out of low and null sec. In the long run it will be like wormholes - where pvp is much less frequent.

In that case, heh, highsec has some amazing pvp. Very little blobbing, either, no caps and above.

In fact, it's all about the destroyers and T3 battlecruisers ~

A) WH dwellers are generally loving no local.
B) You are correct, "Wormbears" would *not* be a better term...

Local should be Immediate in High Sec, Delayed in low sec (or until someone talks). Non existent in null sec/wh's (until someone talks).

Reasoning:

In high sec, Concord is aware of where everyone is through their superior equipment and ship ident boxes.

In low, Concord does not patrol or enforce the space lanes but each gate and station periodically sends out an updated "system status" squak to all ships in system that identifies ships that have jumped into the system or become active in a station (player logs on) However, ships that log into the system in space are NOT detected by gates and stations and therefor are not broadcast until the person in the ships talks, jumps or docks.

In null/wh's there is no local as this is lawless space and only the most rudimentary gates and operations software are provided for each system Ships are not identified, players are only identified if they speak in local and this identification only remains for a cpl hours or so.

An option for null might include a sov based deep space scanning array that cycles every few minutes and will detect all but cloaked ships and then broadcast the number (and only the number) of detected ships "in local" to all ships in the system.

Just my thoughts on it and a possible way local could be worked by ccp.

Like I have said many times before and what has been mentioned in this thread. If the local channel had never been a mechanic when EVE was released years ago and then someone came up with the idea to put it into the game like it is now, it would by far be the biggest, raging threadnought in MMO history due to how dumb of a change it would be.

A Goon afraid of hunters? Are you worried of high sec carebears being hunted or are you refering to nullbears?

I love wormholes. They are where the elite of the elite go, to "finish" eve - the end game where we go to retire in a quiet but chaotic fire of small-gang warfare and exciting unknowns. Everyone who comes to live in a wormhole is simply better than those who choose not to - whether pvper or 'nullbear'. It is "pure" Eve, how the game was meant to be; and all who do not attend are simply hypocrites.

The lack of local is just the icing on a cake that's frickin' made of icing as far as I'm concerned. Of course I am in favour of rolling it out over the entire universe, and arguments that it somehow "wouldn't work" seem unfounded and newly concocted by desperate, lazy, risk-averse cowards. Along with TiDi fixing lag, and this new "ECM Epic Burst" module that breaks the "primary target powerball" type gameplay; removal of local chat from null-sec would definitely be the final "fix" required to tempt me back to 0.0 warfare.

However, I am hesitant to lose what is "special" about wh space. I do feel like a superior being living out here, away from the stupid whiny concerns of suicide ganks in hi-sec or pos-bashing in null.

If local was removed from the game, the rest of you idiots being able to handle it okay would dampen my godly self-image - and I'm just enjoying that too much atm.