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New Dev Blog: UI and I – Our Little Improvements Together V2

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#81 - 2012-04-20 18:29:25 UTC
Very nice work!

While you're working on tooltips, can you please make the delay configurable for in-space brackets and modules?

When tooltips keep splashing unstacked brackets across my screen when I'm just dragging the mouse across the display, it gets irritating. This litter doesn't go away until I click somewhere "safe" on the screen too.

Hell, even trying to use that unstacked list of brackets is hard too, because just moving the mouse up to the correct moon or belt is bound to make the mouse cross another bracket in space and instantly change the list (because there is no delay).

It's also a pain to try and change ammo when the tooltip wants to jump up and get in the way of what I'm doing the instant I stop moving the mouse.

tl;dr: Tooltips with configurable delay, or at least *some* delay would be awesomesauce.


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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#82 - 2012-04-20 18:40:36 UTC
lceman wrote:
are you gonna fix the r.a.m. rounding issue for t2 blueprints cause this is annoying ass hell that i have to 2500 ram to produce 2500 drones/crystalls/ammo etc, but i only need 250 r.a.m

Tbh this bug has been ingame for soon to be 3½ years and its still not fixed.
Have you bugreported it? P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#83 - 2012-04-20 18:43:12 UTC
Shandir wrote:
By the way, the reason (I imagine) that the tooltips defaulted to the text in the field was so you could hover over a text that was too large for the visible field and see a tooltip of the full text - have you removed this functionality?
Yes, as a default behavior. If there are some places where people feel they need this, we can add it back on case by case basis.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2012-04-20 18:47:10 UTC
ccp punkturis, you better deliver something soon, ccp karkur is closing in on my favorite dev list
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#85 - 2012-04-20 18:50:32 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
regarding the "find group in browser tab" feature of the market window.

is there a reason why it can't be enabled all the time? If there is... could you add a setting "link market to browser tab". Modern IDEs have that so Eve needs that too :)
Do you mean that whenever you show market details on something, it opens that place in the browse tab? I wanted to make this so you had to manually do this, mostly because I don't want people to lose their place in the browse tab if they are just checking out this one item (maybe I shouldn't worry about that?)... there could also be some problems with finding the right place in the list if the market is just loading at the same time you do this.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#86 - 2012-04-20 18:52:58 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
ccp punkturis, you better deliver something soon, ccp karkur is closing in on my favorite dev list
Punkturis is working on some very cool stuff she'll be telling you about pretty soon P

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#87 - 2012-04-20 19:00:58 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
regarding the "find group in browser tab" feature of the market window.

is there a reason why it can't be enabled all the time? If there is... could you add a setting "link market to browser tab". Modern IDEs have that so Eve needs that too :)
Do you mean that whenever you show market details on something, it opens that place in the browse tab? I wanted to make this so you had to manually do this, mostly because I don't want people to lose their place in the browse tab if they are just checking out this one item (maybe I shouldn't worry about that?)... there could also be some problems with finding the right place in the list if the market is just loading at the same time you do this.


Perhaps make it work like bread crumbs so that you remove the right click step =D

The Drake is a Lie

Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
#88 - 2012-04-20 19:07:39 UTC
Lovely lovely. I highly approve. Now, let's see if we can't get some extra love in the in game browser...

Currently, when making a request to a server we send along (if trusted) important information like your current solar system, pilot name, stuff like that.

Can we pretty please with sugar on top get the CCPEVE object in javascript to be able to access that information too? As it is rather clunky to have to make a request to the server to update your current location (For example).

Every time in my locator tools that I want to change system, I have to make a request to the server and bounce back the solar system name. While I currently do that and it works. I'd much rather have the page be able to access that information directly and update the page instead of doing a complete page reload.

It is just a wee little thing.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon

Bessa Miros
#89 - 2012-04-20 19:13:41 UTC
All these UI changes are SOOO great. Thanks so much CCP. Love the polish EVE is getting.
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#90 - 2012-04-20 19:15:14 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Gilbaron wrote:
ccp punkturis, you better deliver something soon, ccp karkur is closing in on my favorite dev list
Punkturis is working on some very cool stuff she'll be telling you about pretty soon P
Don't you all worry, I'm quite busy sabotaging that devblog of hers... Pirate

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2012-04-20 19:23:20 UTC
thanks for the changes, constant small improvements like this would be awesome!
Vlodovich
Big Shadows
The Initiative.
#92 - 2012-04-20 19:28:38 UTC
Mr Garo wrote:
Please let us copy and paste ship fittings to and from EVE in the EVEMon / EFT compatible format via the clipboard. The current way to import and export ship fittings via xml files is a bit too complicated to be a comfortable way.

EDIT: Thanks for all the amazing little fixes so far!

- Mr Garo



Yesy Yes Yes please Ive been requesting this in some other 'small changes' type threads :)
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#93 - 2012-04-20 19:33:55 UTC
neat!

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Seloena
Mighty Orca Inc
#94 - 2012-04-20 19:44:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Seloena
Karkur, I see everything is ok after your illness :]

I'm pretty sure that you become one of most liked devs, you know that? For sure from the female part of CCP staff :
I love you :* sh*t, did i said it out loud

Quote:
You guys REALLY want to see which orders are yours in the "Details" tab. I would love to be able to tell you that we are adding it in Escalation, so I think I'll just do it: We are adding it in Escalation :)

Yep. So now you can take off one of two sticky notes from me :p Actually i can't remember what second was about X
Only small sad thing is you couldn't do this as we suggest - caching and fetching only if need, not every time. But maybe we will not feel that much ^^"

Quote:
A "Client" submenu has been added to transaction log in the journal as suggested by Seloena.

Wow! I feel much awarded by that sentence. Thank you very much for posting my name :

Again a lot of very good work based on our needs, things that will make our game even more fun. I like the big features and I can't wait the full Incarna iteration, but nothing make us happy like this small things

Well, Explorer, you should be proud of such worker
For sure other people from your team was working also very hard, but they are not communicating with us such as You and Karkur. This is why I would like to thank all your team. Big bravos for all people in your team! Thank you for cool job!

So, should we now put out tones of suggestions for "U and I" V3 like we did last time? :

Kisses, like always :*
Shandir
EVE University
Ivy League
#95 - 2012-04-20 19:47:49 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Shandir wrote:
By the way, the reason (I imagine) that the tooltips defaulted to the text in the field was so you could hover over a text that was too large for the visible field and see a tooltip of the full text - have you removed this functionality?
Yes, as a default behavior. If there are some places where people feel they need this, we can add it back on case by case basis.


Could this be restored as default when the text does not entirely fit in it's current field, and turned off otherwise? It's not so much that it's useful in any one place, as it is useful when there's a text field you don't usually need long, and you have to stretch it to see everything. Eg. Location in market details, you usually don't care about this, but if you did need to see it, it would be a lot more convenient to hover over it than it would be to stretch the field out, then probably scroll to the right, then read it, then compress the field, and scroll back to the left.
Aineko Macx
#96 - 2012-04-20 19:50:18 UTC
OMG
This is awesome!

Now, onto a request:
Can we plz have a batch invention? Like select 2-11 BPCs and set them up going once through the menus instead of once for each?
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#97 - 2012-04-20 19:59:22 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
regarding the "find group in browser tab" feature of the market window.

is there a reason why it can't be enabled all the time? If there is... could you add a setting "link market to browser tab". Modern IDEs have that so Eve needs that too :)
Do you mean that whenever you show market details on something, it opens that place in the browse tab? I wanted to make this so you had to manually do this, mostly because I don't want people to lose their place in the browse tab if they are just checking out this one item (maybe I shouldn't worry about that?)... there could also be some problems with finding the right place in the list if the market is just loading at the same time you do this.

yep thats what i ment. So if you fear that there would be a problem to permanently enable the link consider making it an option which can be switched on.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_link_the_Navigator_with_the_currently_active_editor%3F

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#98 - 2012-04-20 19:59:34 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Seloena wrote:
Only small sad thing is you couldn't do this as we suggest - caching and fetching only if need, not every time. But maybe we will not feel that much ^^"

Quote:
A "Client" submenu has been added to transaction log in the journal as suggested by Seloena.

Wow! I feel much awarded by that sentence. Thank you very much for posting my name :
Awwww, thanks for the kind words and all the help and great attitude in that other thread Smile
"My orders" is actually cached for 5 minutes, so I don't think this will have much impact. It's mostly when you are just checking one item here and there where we are now adding extra server trip that was not needed before.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur

Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2012-04-20 19:59:59 UTC
Nice! The order highlighter is especially useful. Thank you guys.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#100 - 2012-04-20 20:00:34 UTC
Astounding Dev-blog...! Thank you.

Small UI request, though...

Can you fix it so that my Transactions tab only flashes when there's been an actual transaction (buy/sell)...? Currently, it flashes every time I modify one of my own orders, which is a little annoying.