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CCP - When are you going to do something about Tech Moons!!

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evereplicant
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-20 10:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: evereplicant
This is a bit of a joke really. You have people whining about Incursions but we have this massive problem called tech moons, where alliances basically get billions of isk per month for holding a POS.
You have people like goons who have 100+ moons, PL have loads, Russian Alliance have loads. I mean Goons themselves must be making trillions just from Venal alone! Its ridiculous.
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!
Why yis it alliances as mentioned be allowed to bring 200,400,1000+ to fights with out ANY consequence? Becuase basically the insurance + the amount of stupidly high amount of free isk they make from their 100s of moons basically makes this completely risk free pvp.

When are you going remove those stupoid amounts of tech in Venal? When are you going to give everyone a chance to own moons across eve? I mean each alliance knows EVERY location of EVERY expensive moon in the entire eve universe and you know what? they OWN THEM ALL its just wrong!. Drop 100 supers on to take it, and then drop 100 supers again should anyone even attempt to sniff the moon dust.

8 years in with eve and this is a major major issue now, wasnt so bad before but its wrong totally wrong, ppl whine about highsec bears this is 0.0 bears but 100x worse. Moons should be randomised or the output should be severely reduced and im mean severely like 75%.

Will CCP ever do anything? who knows sick of hearing 'talks' and playing a game that is now become saturated. I dont want a play a game that is controlled by just a few alliances. I am playing someone elses sandbox and mine is being controlled by someone elses. This game isnt really sandbox any more becuase they things you want to do are actually controlled by others.

We shouldnt just talk about techs months even prom and dyspro moons
Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-20 10:21:03 UTC
dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?
Ai Shun
#3 - 2012-04-20 10:24:26 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?
JinSanJong
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-20 10:26:54 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?


Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....
JinSanJong
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-20 10:27:56 UTC
Jastra wrote:
dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?


I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....
evereplicant
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-20 10:33:13 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?


Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....


This ^^
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-20 10:35:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
JinSanJong wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?


Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....


You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.

But then on the other hand tech is definitely imbalanced and needs seeing to.


JinSanJong wrote:
Jastra wrote:
dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?


I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....


I think he's referring to a dev stating that moons are isk "printing machines". Don't quote me on that though.
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#8 - 2012-04-20 10:36:55 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Jastra wrote:
dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?


I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....

EVE keynote, CCP Soundwave talks about ring mining as a possible new way for moon goo to be distributed - though this is 2013 at the earliest.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.

TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-20 10:38:02 UTC
The issue is that some alliances are so large and have the sheer amount of super and titans available that to fight would be unwise.

This does need addressing, Its a little like Microsofts Grand Duke Bill Gates. He has alot of monopoly in his field and the powers that be keep fining him and telling him that he cannot buy everything that poses a threat to his company.

I believe that tech moons should indeed be thought out alot better then it currently is. That's pretty much all you do in null...protect what's yours and roam when your bored. Do a few plexs maybe...

It needs shaking up, Null is stale like bread....it needs refreshing, toast that bread up rub in some garlic throw a few sliced tomatoes on there with a few slices of mozzarella under the grill 2 minutes done.

Empire - boring

Low Sec full of complete tw*ts who think they're tough but don't come to null because they like to camp care bears on gates.

Null - boring

WH - interesting but again needs some more flavour throwing on there.

I think CCP need to go back to the drawing board and get some new content to play with for there customer base.

Back on topic - apologies

Tech moon Major Major nerf tyvm

Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-20 10:39:34 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Jastra wrote:
dunno, I suspect most people watched fanfest and you didnt ?


I guess you didnt either, seeing you was unable to offer any insight or even answer or even a link or ... forget it....


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=986169

just scroll down a few pages and read.....

TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-20 10:40:07 UTC
You make it sound like one person is getting all the goo from the moons they have.

Also,
You're more than welcome to go out and drop a pos on a moon and mine it.
You'll need to work out if there's profit in it first though.

This is also doable solo although it's considerably easier if you have friends.
Ai Shun
#12 - 2012-04-20 10:44:48 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.


Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it.

What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it P
Ai Shun
#13 - 2012-04-20 10:46:08 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?


Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....


What, so it is impossible to claim a system anymore? When did CCP remove that feature?

Oh.

Right.

You're in the lazy "gimme" brigade. Sod off and go play WoW. It might be more suited to you. There they give you candy for logging in and Epics for managing to turn your character around.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#14 - 2012-04-20 10:49:33 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
You gotta admit, the guy has a point. These are alliance/ coalition scale resources. How on earth can Frank and his 10 best mates expect a piece of the pie when they haven't got the man power to back it.


Indeed. I can't claim a whole system in null just because I want it. I'll need to get some friends, try and take it off an existing group. Or perhaps organise a deal with somebody. Or work within the sandbox to try and achieve it.

What I should not do is come to the forums and bleat because somebody else was willing to put in the organisation and effort to get something and I can't have it P


So are you essentially saying you believe the current moon mineral situation is "fine" in your eyes?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

evereplicant
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-04-20 10:55:33 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
You make it sound like one person is getting all the goo from the moons they have.

Also,
You're more than welcome to go out and drop a pos on a moon and mine it.
You'll need to work out if there's profit in it first though.

This is also doable solo although it's considerably easier if you have friends.


Lol funniest post i have read in 8 years
evereplicant
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-20 11:01:48 UTC  |  Edited by: evereplicant
Ai Shun wrote:
JinSanJong wrote:
Ai Shun wrote:
evereplicant wrote:
And can anyone take these moons? I mean average joe? can anyone even get a moon? never in a million years is your answer!


Yes, you can. You need to go out, grab a piece of null and hold it. Same as everybody else that wants a piece of it. You have the same opportunites as everyone else!

Or were you after a reward without having to work for it?


Stop coming out with stupid stupid answers....


What, so it is impossible to claim a system anymore? When did CCP remove that feature?

Oh.

Right.

You're in the lazy "gimme" brigade. Sod off and go play WoW. It might be more suited to you. There they give you candy for logging in and Epics for managing to turn your character around.


It is not a point of working for it at all. So calm down and take some valium sonny. The plain FACT is that these alliances have built up a massive resource over yes a few years, but eve a few years ago was a completely different beast! and whole lot less players, capitals etc etc. Eve is now saturated. It is IMPOSSIBLE and thats a FACT for anyone to build up an alliance with out being a pet, and then geting no moons anyway for being a pet. People simply dont have 100s of caps, supers, titans thats now needed to take a moon in their back pocket jeez! Dont you understand that simple matter?
I remember when all you had was a 50-100 man fleet of BS to kill a POS and some dreads. Not like that anymore! Each BS has now been replaced by a titan or a super FACT
All the large alliances are people who have played the game for along time (well the leaders mainly) but people like NCDOT have all the old tri players from years ago etc. They have just been recycled into another alliance. Its difficult recruiting nevermind trying to build up an alliance to takeon the big boys.

I mean look at Evoke, NCDOT, Raiden all very very established alliances wiht supers, titans etc all struggles to keep the tech moons in Venal, and its not come to a stage where there is a pact in place! So please GTFO coming out with get an army and go take a moon BS!
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-04-20 11:10:51 UTC
GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012

1. scooter Kondur (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine
3. evereplicant
4. DarthNefarius
5. masternerdguy

Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.

You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!


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evereplicant
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-04-20 11:15:34 UTC  |  Edited by: evereplicant
Roime wrote:
GD Troll Top 5 - April 2012

1. scooter Kondur (Hall of Fame member #192)
2. Indawmarmar Fazmararardurrwhine
3. evereplicant
4. DarthNefarius
5. masternerdguy

Congratulations! You have reached a spot among legendarily bad posters.

You can improve your chances to claim #1 fame by adding even more CAPITALIZATION and stupid. Your strength is unreserved 0.0 hatred, combine that with general PVP hatred and some Mittani bashing, and you might be well on your way to the top spot!




By that postt you should of been way above me.. i demand a recount.. I love pvp just dont like lamers, losers and bears... i think that fits in nicely with 0.0, pvp and mittani? amirite?

Dont worry about what im doing, i mean if you are counting trolls, you need to get out more and worry about where yur life is heading..
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#19 - 2012-04-20 11:20:32 UTC
The problem really isn't the moons themselves, its the distribution of them. Concentrateing into pretty much one area is game balance IMO. Reditribute Tec Moons evenly threw out eve, problem solved.

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#20 - 2012-04-20 11:24:19 UTC
Moon goo mechanics definitely need rebalancing. The most obvious is distributing it more randomly/evenly across null.

Also open up moon mining in wormholes.
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