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What ever Happened to Disco Ganking
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Tiberius Rhavinia
Politas Ateles Syndicate
#1 - 2012-04-19 09:04:43 UTC
Returning char here.

So, what happened to the days of disco-gangs in Jita Popping everything left and right? I can't imagine that the arty changes altered the smart-bomb ability to clear an entire undock point of everything but battleships and freighters.
Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-19 09:25:34 UTC
You cannot smartbomb in dockrange.
Eryn Velasquez
#3 - 2012-04-19 09:28:55 UTC
Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ...

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Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
#4 - 2012-04-19 10:03:06 UTC
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ...


GTFO
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-19 10:37:07 UTC
Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.

We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.
Dominus Alterai
Star Freaks
#6 - 2012-04-19 14:30:10 UTC
Vaal Erit wrote:
Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.

We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.


Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns hulks.

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Tiberius Rhavinia
Politas Ateles Syndicate
#7 - 2012-04-19 20:09:53 UTC
Largely wondering because it would seem quite plausible to nab enough to make up for losses at a station undock with numerous haulers.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-19 20:59:35 UTC
Tornadoes happened.

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Reppyk
The Black Shell
#9 - 2012-04-19 21:43:36 UTC
Tiberius Rhavinia wrote:
So, what happened to the days of disco-gangs in Jita Popping everything left and right?
They all died because of AIDS. You know, back in the days, we were all --oh wait. You mean, the other disco gangs ? Ah sorry I don't know.

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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-20 01:13:22 UTC
Because players suddenly couldn't use expensive battleships and get their money back to soften the blow when they got GCC. Then they got tier 3 battlecruisers fitting battleship guns and catalysts with buffed hybrids amble to smash up hulks at a fraction of the value.

Talk about risk adverse (yes I am going there Blink) pilots, they suddenly get the advantage for more destruction but they refuse to allow hulks the chance to get a buff as well in turn to deal with the buffs of other ships. All they can say is "Like, fit tank mods and junk or gag on a spoon" because these same guys belive the hulk pilot needs to take action into their own hands. But Titans got nerfed in regards to loud bellyaching bitching about XL titan guns ganking sub capital ships (not much different then hulks), players unwilling to take action into their own hands by stepping up into capital ships that don't pop to Tital XL guns. Its so...hypocritical that Titans get nerfed down but the Hulk can't get buffed up since the Titan ganked sub cap ships while the Hulk gets ganked with low cost ships.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-04-20 03:42:53 UTC
Dominus Alterai wrote:
Vaal Erit wrote:
Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.

We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.


Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns hulks.


750 DPS to be exact Pirate

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Aesheera
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-20 11:17:05 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

750 DPS to be exact Pirate


3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore Big smile

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-04-21 21:17:47 UTC
Aesheera wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

750 DPS to be exact Pirate


3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore Big smile


The different ships have a different purpose... it's like a '59 Chevy Impala vs. a 2012 Ferarri FF in a demolition derby... one's made of steel the other fiberglass Pirate

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ICU Andshutup
Kill Injure Slash and Stomp
#14 - 2012-04-21 21:26:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ICU Andshutup
Dominus Alterai wrote:
Vaal Erit wrote:
Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.

We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.


Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns max yield fit hulks.


Fixed it for you
Lola Humpsalot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-04-21 23:09:29 UTC
Celeritas 5k wrote:
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ...


GTFO



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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#16 - 2012-04-23 09:02:17 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Because players suddenly couldn't use expensive battleships and get their money back to soften the blow when they got GCC. Then they got tier 3 battlecruisers fitting battleship guns and catalysts with buffed hybrids amble to smash up hulks at a fraction of the value.

Talk about risk adverse (yes I am going there Blink) pilots, they suddenly get the advantage for more destruction but they refuse to allow hulks the chance to get a buff as well in turn to deal with the buffs of other ships. All they can say is "Like, fit tank mods and junk or gag on a spoon" because these same guys belive the hulk pilot needs to take action into their own hands. But Titans got nerfed in regards to loud bellyaching bitching about XL titan guns ganking sub capital ships (not much different then hulks), players unwilling to take action into their own hands by stepping up into capital ships that don't pop to Tital XL guns. Its so...hypocritical that Titans get nerfed down but the Hulk can't get buffed up since the Titan ganked sub cap ships while the Hulk gets ganked with low cost ships.


Titan alt detected. U mad bro? Also, I find your lack of face disturbing.

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Eryn Velasquez
#17 - 2012-04-23 09:55:01 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Aesheera wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:

750 DPS to be exact Pirate


3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore Big smile


The different ships have a different purpose... it's like a '59 Chevy Impala vs. a 2012 Ferarri FF in a demolition derby... one's made of steel the other fiberglass Pirate


That's a real funny comparison.

You're looking to a hulk like this:

http://www.dutchcrafters.com/product_images/pid_8033-Amish-Cedar-Wheelbarrow-5.jpg

But you should look at a hulk this way:

http://www.kresscarrier.com/coal.php (weighing >450 tons, strong structure, Wheels > 3,50m)

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