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Negative Balance shock..! Please read..

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Caeled Vorchaz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-18 12:22:35 UTC
My main toon has contracted a negative balance Im shocked to find today after subbing back to EVE after a lengthy break. For myself, the owner of the account since beta, have never purchased ISK illegally but find after grilling my kid, he had indeed purchased some isk last year. As the account holder I have to take responsibility I guess. But the punishment..Ohh my.!!!

Now I am lumbered with my main toon unable to pretty much do anything at all, let alone play him with enjoyment. So my issue is this, although I do accept responsibility for this infraction, the punishment has rendered my playing experience with EVE, mute and dead, because my sole motivation to play was with my only real toon who I had scince beta.

So how can CCp think this is good for real business when the punishment is motivationaly destroying, period.? I have just paid them 2 months sub to find this crushing reality and now not sure what to do to get out of it. I will not buy more plex to please CCP.

I feel a 0 balance would have been much fairer or at least not soul destroying. Its not like he made anything out of buying some ISK to get a ship, hell take the darn ship..

Is there anything I can do other than use my low low alt to earn ISk and transfer to my main, or can I not even do this.?

I would like CCP to answer this if possible..Im at a loss and very dispondant about the whole thing. I was excited to come back to EVE for the new axpansion, but now Im just plain dismayed..

I did send a rather angry petition to ccp but it was based mainly on panic and immediate anger. So I do appologise for that. But please understand my plight. I asure you my son wont be playing my account again.. Grrr....(Cheese and water for a week)..JK**
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#2 - 2012-04-18 12:25:57 UTC
How big of a hole are we talking about here?

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morons.
#3 - 2012-04-18 12:26:44 UTC
Make your kid pay the difference in Plex - sounds like a fair punishment.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Xeyena
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-18 12:27:05 UTC
So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN.
Caeled Vorchaz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-18 12:27:05 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
How big of a hole are we talking about here?



The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still...
Caeled Vorchaz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-18 12:27:35 UTC
Xeyena wrote:
So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN.

Um no, my son uses my computer..
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#7 - 2012-04-18 12:28:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Xeyena wrote:
So you were account sharing as well? ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN.


Wrong, it's his kid.

Caeled Vorchaz wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
How big of a hole are we talking about here?



The debt is 300 million. Not the end of the world I know, but still...



300m is little more then half a PLEX. Have your son pony up the $20 and sell it with an alt (can't use the market with a negative wallet) and transfer the ISK. Just don't go flying around too much with a PLEX in your cargo or you'll get ganked.

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ShootsBlues McAwoxer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-18 12:28:44 UTC
buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic.
hermot
The No One Cares Corp
#9 - 2012-04-18 12:28:52 UTC
earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive.

Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son.

Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault"

You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet.
Planetarian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-18 12:30:41 UTC
HTFU !

End of story

If you're reading this you've come to my signature, which has little relevance to this post

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#11 - 2012-04-18 12:31:30 UTC
Account sharing is risky even in the family.

Stop you whiny, baby, sooky, soft **** blubbering and buy some PLEX.

Man up for fucksakes.
Caeled Vorchaz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-18 12:31:58 UTC
ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote:
buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic.


Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check..
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#13 - 2012-04-18 12:32:06 UTC
The beatings shall continue until morale improves.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Xeyena
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-18 12:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Xeyena
C. Children

(1) Responsibility for Account

Minor children may not establish an Account without the consent of a parent or guardian. If the user of EVE is a minor, a parent or guardian must complete the registration process to establish an Account, in which case the parent or guardian takes full responsibility for all obligations under the EULA and for all activities of the child using the Account.If you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account).

If you establish an Account, you represent that you are an adult thirteen (13) years of age or older and are either accepting the EULA on behalf of yourself or on behalf of your child, in which latter case you agree to the EULA with regard to your child and represent that you are also personally bound by the EULA.









ENJOY YOUR PERMA BAN
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#15 - 2012-04-18 12:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
hermot wrote:
earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive.

Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son.

Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault"

You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet.


Go read the eula. You can share accounts with your children, since they are not legally allowed to own one.

Edit: on a sidenote, that part about account sharing hasn't been always part of the EULA anyway.

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hermot
The No One Cares Corp
#16 - 2012-04-18 12:35:49 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
hermot wrote:
earn is on your alt and make your wallet positive.

Dont give account details to people who dont own the account. i.,e your son.

Your lucky your not banned for account sharing, although your admission in this thread of account sharing may well secure that as the only worthwhile outcome for people who dont listen to the EULA and expect everything to be given back to them because "it wasnt their fault"

You let someone else use your account, you should be banned. Be thankful for a neg wallet.


Go read the eula. You can share accounts with your children, since they are not legally allowed to own one.

Edit: on a sidenote, that part about account sharing hasn't been always part of the EULA anyway.



you are wrong

(1) Responsibility for Account

Minor children may not establish an Account without the consent of a parent or guardian. If the user of EVE is a minor, a parent or guardian must complete the registration process to establish an Account, in which case the parent or guardian takes full responsibility for all obligations under the EULA and for all activities of the child using the Account.If you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account).

The account cannot be shared.
ShootsBlues McAwoxer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-18 12:36:28 UTC
Caeled Vorchaz wrote:
ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote:
buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic.


Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check..


Translation: It really wasn't my son, it was me, but I don't want to accept responsibility for it so I invented a son I don't have to blame it on. Either that or you're the worst parent ever for not only letting your child get a hold of your eve password but also your credit card number, and on top of all of this you never bothered to tell him about avoiding RMT before allowing him to acquire both of those.

Pretty much complete failure on your part. You deserve this.
Caeled Vorchaz
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-04-18 12:40:23 UTC
Well, I am truly saddened by these rude pithy comments that are totaly uncalled for. Is this the world we now live in when its so easy to insult people and be disgustingly rude beyond words that morality dosent even enter into the equation.? The younger generation have no concept of respect and these replies are proof of that. Its a pitty we now live in such a horrid world.

If letting my now 18 year old son use MY account on MY computer is against EVE policy then CCP have truly gone way to far..

Lets see what they have to say. I wont post anymore because clearly asking for help is the wrong thing to do these days. Perhaps I should have yelled fire and got a more positive response.



Holo Bagza
OhGodThisGame
#19 - 2012-04-18 12:40:41 UTC
All this for 300 mil? Really?
seany1212
M Y S T
#20 - 2012-04-18 12:41:10 UTC
Caeled Vorchaz wrote:
ShootsBlues McAwoxer wrote:
buy a plex, take the cost out of your son's allowance, done deal. No need to run to the forum and compose posts that just make you look pathetic.


Jesus Christ the lack of general respect is just shocking these day. You sir clearly need a morality check..


You suddenly got a grasp of the english language in comparison to your original post Roll


not sorry for your stupidity Lol
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