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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-17 13:24:21 UTC
How does one counter EWAR?
A BC can be locked down by an assault frigate with EWAR, how does one counter this?
ECCM doesnt work that well.
What skills help reduce jamming chance?
Degnar Oskold
Moira.
#2 - 2012-04-17 13:57:59 UTC
Are you sure you used the right ECCM for your ship type? An AF gets no EWAR bonus, it should be fairly crap at it.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-17 14:28:17 UTC
ECM should be more like warp scrams, if you fit against it your immune unless more then one of them are put on you.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2012-04-17 14:36:34 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
ECM should be more like warp scrams, if you fit against it your immune unless more then one of them are put on you.


In which case it would work every time?

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Wyte Ragnarok
#5 - 2012-04-17 16:14:47 UTC
Hilarious, Nalha :')
Dyniss
KarmaFleet University
#6 - 2012-04-18 04:41:57 UTC
EWAR is a chance based effect not 100% it misses too scrams and points are 100% guaranteed to work unless the target has fitted warp stabs
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-18 04:54:08 UTC
By whining about it. Blaming all in-game fails on it. Developing a movement with a catchy slogan like: Because of falcon!!!! Then sit back and wait for the nerf bat.

Don't believe? Proof:

1. NOS
2. Sensor Damps
3. ECM
4. (soon to be) Neuts

TwistedTwistedTwistedTwistedTwisted

-DT
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2012-04-18 05:15:29 UTC
EWAR = Electronic Warfare
ECM = Electronic Counter Measures (type of EWAR)

Drones and damps will work.

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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-18 05:36:23 UTC
Death Toll007 wrote:
By whining about it. Blaming all in-game fails on it. Developing a movement with a catchy slogan like: Because of falcon!!!! Then sit back and wait for the nerf bat.

Don't believe? Proof:

1. NOS
2. Sensor Damps
3. ECM
4. (soon to be) Neuts

TwistedTwistedTwistedTwistedTwisted

-DT

I'm just asking for their counter.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#10 - 2012-04-18 06:00:18 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
How does one counter EWAR?
A BC can be locked down by an assault frigate with EWAR, how does one counter this?
ECCM doesnt work that well.
What skills help reduce jamming chance?


Only ECCM can reduce jamming chance.

ECCM =Electronic Counter-Countermeasures
Bit redundant don't you think?

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt
Dyniss
KarmaFleet University
#11 - 2012-04-18 07:00:03 UTC
Damps work well against ECM ships
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#12 - 2012-04-18 10:25:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
A) what type of Ewar we talking about?

B)how was it used? were you ECMed with drones or a mod?




*Ewar is a whole bunch of things, as in the term is used for every thing from a warp scrambler to a target painter.


**ECM if its drones you need smart bombs/drones, as they already have a low chance they just shake lots of "dice" so you will need to kill the drones. Now if the mid slot mod was used the corect type of ECCM on your ship and there ship being an assult frigg you would be just fine as un bonused ECM is not very strong and hard for a frigg to fit a lot of.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Lili Lu
#13 - 2012-04-18 22:49:45 UTC
Death Toll007 wrote:
By whining about it. Blaming all in-game fails on it. Developing a movement with a catchy slogan like: Because of falcon!!!! Then sit back and wait for the nerf bat.

Don't believe? Proof:

1. NOS
2. Sensor Damps
3. ECM
4. (soon to be) Neuts

TwistedTwistedTwistedTwistedTwisted

-DT

Yeah, about your post -

1. Nerf probably had to be done to allow Amarr laser ships (ironically) to have a place in the game. Although one could argue that nos was rendered useless and neuts substituted in their place, when some other adjustments could have been made.

2. Wow, so one alliance tournament with everyone using damps in free mid slots created a heavy nerf and no simultaneous re-buff on specialized damp ships. Result, damps don't get used on those ships, they become solely long pointing ships. Noone wants to dedicate 3 mids just to shut down one BS or recon, and even then if it gets close enough . .

3. Yeah, so nerfed as far as non-dedicated boats. But unlike what happened with damp boats or web boats the ECm boats get simultaneous re-buffs (30% per level bonuses lol) making the ships still very powerful in small gang sized pvp. Because of Falcon was a slogan for those opposing ecm nerf. May have been successful. ECM boats were't rendered useless because of their rebuff. And of course what has the alliance tournament become but mostly drakes/tengus and ecm boats multiple times. So let's nerf neuts . .

4. Say what? yeah, there has been so much outcry about neuts ruining the game.Roll
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#14 - 2012-04-18 23:31:38 UTC
Off topic but both NOS and Neuts should have tracking.

The very idea of gigantic energy siphon dish or whatever on the battleship should not have similar issues like their turrets is strange.

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#15 - 2012-04-18 23:35:57 UTC
Niko Takahashi wrote:
Off topic but both NOS and Neuts should have tracking.

The very idea of gigantic energy siphon dish or whatever on the battleship should not have similar issues like their turrets is strange.



That's probably fair, it's a bit ridiculous that a battleship can just completely counter a tackle frigate using a large module (neut).

Hell, give all the EWAR and energy emission stuff that's not AE some sort of tracking stat.