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missile boats: rigors VS painters
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Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#1 - 2012-04-17 08:48:31 UTC
ok i went through this thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97175&find=unread

and decided to put aside my tengu (cuz face it doing the same thing over and over gets old) and try this out but this lead to a series of questions

my current fit is this
navy scor

highs :7x t2 cruise launcher
mids: Gist A-type XL booster, 4x t2 hardeners, 2x t2 boost amps, 1x t2 painter
low: 3x BCU 1x cap flux coil
rigs: 3x ccc rig

should the rigs be swapped for rigor, and the painter for a recharger?
or should i sell this thing off and get a golem given its better with painters?
but even if i did get the golem would i need the rigor rigs instead of or with the painter

i should also note that i have HG crystal set so im not that worried about the tank itself but more for DPS efficiency

any and all input is appreciated
Tenga Halaris
Galactic Traders Union
#2 - 2012-04-17 11:21:48 UTC
Would be nice to know, what you are going to to with it.

On the other hand, why switch from a Tengu to a Navy Scorp? The Tengu can make up to 850 DPS with imps and all V, whilst maintaining a powerful tank, with a Weaponsig of 125m.
Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#3 - 2012-04-17 11:24:37 UTC
mainly L4

and why do it?
im keepin the tengu but i just want something differnt
Tenga Halaris
Galactic Traders Union
#4 - 2012-04-17 11:36:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenga Halaris
You will get 600 Missile DPS with T2 Missiles for BS at 300m explo radius and 100 explo velocity. Also your Droneskills should be very good, or it will take forever to kill 3-4 Elite-Frigs.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, level 4]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pithum C-Type Invulnerability Field
Pith C-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

700 tank
800 DPS with Hammerheads

This is ok for missions, example is a Guristas Fit, BUT -
I had some friends switch from N-Scorp to Tengu and they never used the Scorp again... If you don't fly in Caldari Space, use a Navy Raven.



Edit: Would be nice to see your tengu fit...
Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#5 - 2012-04-17 11:59:10 UTC
my tengu is....


highs: 6x t2 heavy
mids: gist atype large booster, 3x caldari navy invuls, caldari navy boost amp, and a deadspace em field
lows: 4x caldari BCU
rigs: 2x t2 CCC 1x t1 ccc
subs

grav capacitor - propulsion
augmented cap reservoir- engineering
amp node - defensive
dissolution sequencer- electronics
accelerated ejection bay - offence

slow yea but tanks like a *****
Tenga Halaris
Galactic Traders Union
#6 - 2012-04-17 12:08:45 UTC
Overtanked! A small DS Booster and a T2 fit can tank Most missions except some very hard ones. Use Missile Implants and a Bayloading Acc II rig + 2 Flares on it. Posted this Fit in an other Thread:

[Tengu, Omni]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II

Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pith C-Type Photon Scattering Field
Pithum C-Type Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Tanks everything, if you kill the webber frigs first and orbit a can or anything else. With 5% imps, you get around 850 DPS.


o/
Lojak 2501
Unitum Investigationis et Progressus
#7 - 2012-04-17 12:17:49 UTC
i tend to overtank on purpose. was some very hard learned lesson in my eve early days

hence the reason why i have a harder time with dps.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#8 - 2012-04-17 12:19:35 UTC
When it comes time to get a Golem you're almost certainly going to want a Torp fit, there are very few situations where it (at least with access to Javelin Torps) is outperformed in PvE by a cruise fit. For the Golem therefore rigors will be completely pointless (you'll want 2 T2 Range rigs ideally) and Target Painters (plural) will be your priority.