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The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#101 - 2012-04-17 22:59:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Talon SilverHawk
masternerdguy wrote:
You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages?

Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.

  • Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
  • More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
  • Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
  • Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
  • Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
  • Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
  • Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.


Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.

Discuss.


I am one the has been asking CCP if they will do anything for the solo/casual/time lacking player, but I cant remember asking for or see any of the above asked for ?

More NPC stations in 0.0 would be a good thing and I believe pull more people out of high sec, but not to claim sovereignty that would a dumb ass idea like rest quoted above, which thinking about it is probably a troll post, and I bit Oops.

Tal
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2012-04-17 23:17:40 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play?

Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin?

Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#103 - 2012-04-18 00:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Kattshiro wrote:
I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)

It also makes breaking into enemy's space a bit cooler :) Since you can sneak in and try doing stuff there.

If course you should just blow up their cynojammers and drop your supercapital fleet and two fleets of capital ships and pew pew everything befre jumping out and posting your pos.jpg for when they exit RF.
Ocih wrote:
Lfod Shi wrote:
Funny, I don't recall complaining about flying solo or asking for special treatment.


Me either. This whole thread is what we call a red herring. People like the OP are the first to cry nerf when a Titan blob stomps thier Maelstrom Blob and are the first to belly ache about the dumbing down of EVE but the only math they want to introduce is, my blob is bigger than your blob, my blob wins.

Yeah, I know right... just the other day, these elite pvpers where whining because of our superrifters and uberdrake blobs..

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-04-18 00:37:05 UTC
When did "The Sandbox" turn into "The Greek Shower". There's room in this game for everyone and you should be glad it stays that way.
Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#105 - 2012-04-18 00:42:07 UTC
Surge Roth wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play?

Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin?

Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong.


Your definition of "Sandbox" is very 1980's trailer park. That said, I understand what your trying to say, your just to stupid to know how to say it.
Lonox
Doomheim
#106 - 2012-04-18 00:47:33 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy"

You must be really lonely and need to post for attention.




this


Because of "likes".
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-04-18 00:54:18 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
MMORPG

Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game

Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for.



Multuplayer does not mean that you have to play with those people, it just means that you have some kind of interaction with them, whether direct (I blew your ship up) or indirect (you just bought a new ship from me on the market and you give that ship to a corpmate).

If you are a marketeer in EVE, you dont need to speak to anyone to make your billions. Are you interacting with other players? Yes, but by and large, you are not targeting a specific players with your sales. Would I be missing a huge part of EVE by not interacting with other players? Yes, but it depends on that player.

If I'm playing WoW, I dont need to team up with 5 other players to get to level 80. I can do quest every day untill I hit that number and not talk with one person during that process. Is it boring as hell? Maybe..but again, that depends on the player.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#108 - 2012-04-18 01:09:39 UTC
Eian wrote:
Surge Roth wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play?

Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin?

Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong.


Your definition of "Sandbox" is very 1980's trailer park. That said, I understand what your trying to say, your just to stupid to know how to say it.

People who call others "stupid" should know their own language. Your English is atrocious.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2012-04-18 01:31:13 UTC
So i'm a pretty solo, casual, 'carebear', and I don't remember asking for any of this.

That said, op is a generalizing jerk who needs to have his computer rights taken away because it's past his bedtime and his game isn't going his way so he's cranky.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#110 - 2012-04-18 01:36:38 UTC
Surge Roth wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play?

Part of having a sandbox includes those that would oppress you. This is EvE after all. Or, does all that stop where your feelings begin?

Just getting tired of seeing the same crap told over and over again, even when it's wrong.


heres some new crap

Quote:
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Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#111 - 2012-04-18 01:56:06 UTC
I got more harsh truth today from that BM after lunch than what this thread can deliver. The harsh truth is that there are still those who feel the need to dictate how others play, to suit themselves. They don't care about the balance of the game as a whole, but their own enjoyment of the game. However, they turn around and say that the group that offends them by playing casually/solo are the ones trying to dictate the way the game is played.

A lot of your "truths" have to do with a PVPer dictating what a PVEer does with his time in game. That's the biggest truth in your statement, the rest is twisted comments gathered from across the boards, usually from newer players who haven't really grasped the game for what it is yet. Even I have done it when I first started playing. It happens.

My truth, though, when it comes to Eve, it's this mentality that keeps me casual and solo. I just don't want to be around those who want to dictate how others spend their $15. By playing solo, I save myself a whole lot of grief and aggravation from those who just can't be happy with what they have. As far as I am concerned, the galaxy can burn around me and I won't even blink. I haven't found a reason to be concerned any further than my own happy little sphere of influence.
"If."
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#112 - 2012-04-18 01:59:27 UTC
Roime wrote:
On some forums, people are banned for badposting.



Not this one thank god

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#113 - 2012-04-18 02:22:36 UTC
Solo player/pvper checking in.

Do I roam in gangs? Yep. When I want to.

Am I in a corp/alliance? Yep. Look right there, to the left. I fly with them... when I want to.

Do I do moneymaking stuff on my own? Yep. Why the hell wouldnt I? A pie sliced one way leaves me the biggest slice, after all?

Do I pvp alone? Yep. When I want to, which is most of the time.

Cool thing about EVE. I can do what I want. It seems you have a hard time with me doing what I want, OP.

My advice?

Suck less.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#114 - 2012-04-18 02:45:14 UTC
THE HARSH THRUTH ABOUT PLAYING BY YOUR SELF IS THAT IT CAN BE SELF SERVING AT TIMES....

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Ettu Brute II
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2012-04-18 03:11:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ettu Brute II
Never mind.
Boston Bradley
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2012-04-18 03:20:42 UTC
Playing EVE by yourself is like playing football/basketball with a 1 man team. It's unfair and not fun UNLESS you're playing a team with 1 person too.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stop being a loner.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#117 - 2012-04-18 04:55:14 UTC
Boston Bradley wrote:
Playing EVE by yourself is like playing football/basketball with a 1 man team. It's unfair and not fun UNLESS you're playing a team with 1 person too.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stop being a loner.


opinion. Its MY opinion that its fun

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stop telling ppl how to play

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Signal11th
#118 - 2012-04-18 07:14:48 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
MMORPG

Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game

Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for.



Pretty much this, although MMORPG doesn't actually mean that you have to play with others, it just means as in life large groups of people doing the same thing will accomplish it faster than people on their own. Anyway there are plenty of ways for a solo player to earn isk without logging on all the time,

Missions LVL 4 or 5 plenty of isk for a reasonably SP'd alt quick too.
Station Trading, this one is the easiest even I made a few bill doing this for about an hour a day, boring as hell though.
Exploring.

I am a "soloish" player as in I mean I have little time to log on during the week and when I do I'm usually in a fleet or doing alliance stuff so I have to find creative ways to make money to fund my EVE life, it's possible just most of the time mind-numbingly boring.

The good thing about EVE is that at the start you want shiny shiny but then after a while you realise you're having more fun in a frigate. Shiny is nice but really unless you're sat in a SC/TITAN or 14 years old it's completely pointless.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Karim alRashid
Starboard.
#119 - 2012-04-18 08:52:53 UTC
Tikktokk Tokkzikk wrote:
Who decided that MMO means playing WITH players and not AGAINST players?



I'd pay ISK for having the option of more "Likes" on this post. Lol

Pain is weakness leaving the body http://www.youtube.com/user/AlRashidKarim/videos
Belshazzar Babylon
Doomheim
#120 - 2012-04-18 11:29:53 UTC
Silly me thinking that the sandbox meant I got to choose my own path. Whether that be joing an 8000+ alliance as a foot soldier in a Maelstrom, dying gloriously in a hero rifter, running in a small gang with friends, or even gasp solo mining.

I know some people have a hard time understanding that the solo Hulk out there is actually PvP even when hulkageddon is not going on. He's competing with every other hulk out there. He even has to compete against the bots which means he actually faces more competition than most.

Me I'm a total casual carebear. I give CCP my 15 bucks and run Angel Exstravaganza on a Saturday morning while my kids watch cartoons. I'm pretty happy with most of the game mechanics.

I see just as many threads on here from Nullbears. Nerf AFK Cloakers who Meta Game, Nerf Incursion income from players who come together. Nerf the Cloak+MWD trick. Nerf Titans they destroyed my blob.