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The Harsh Truth About Casual/Solo Players
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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-16 21:07:19 UTC
You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages?

Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.

  • Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
  • More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
  • Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
  • Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
  • Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
  • Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
  • Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.


Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.

Discuss.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-16 21:09:33 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages?

Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.

  • Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
  • More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
  • Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
  • Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
  • Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
  • Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
  • Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.


Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.

Discuss.


I agree 100% that changes like these should not be implemented.

That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2012-04-16 21:10:47 UTC
The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy"

You must be really lonely and need to post for attention.



☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-16 21:10:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kattshiro
Poor business plan to only cater to people that have 6 - 8 hours a day to blow on a game.

You can in fact have content for both groups...

I think you miss understand the small holdings claim...rather make null sec more accessible to smaller corps or people besides having to hold space or be in a uber alliance. (Exploration, null indie etc)
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-16 21:12:03 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:

I agree 100% that changes like these should not be implemented.

That said, if someone wants to play EVE online alone, who am I to tell them otherwise. It's their 15 bucks a month, not mine.

^^
This.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
theocratis
#6 - 2012-04-16 21:33:52 UTC
people who play alone are potential recruits that have not yet met eye to eye with a like minded player.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-04-16 21:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
I play alone because people bug me and I'm like a honey badger, I don't give a **** Cool

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#8 - 2012-04-16 22:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
I am one such of these solo casualist, and I absolutely hate this list almost with a burning passion.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-16 22:04:12 UTC
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-16 22:05:28 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
The Harsh Truth About "masternerdguy"

You must be really lonely and need to post for attention.




this
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-16 22:13:32 UTC
Masternerdguy's theme song playing in his head everytime he posts to gain attention
Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2012-04-16 22:13:49 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:

Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.


Tired, worn and lame canard.

Regardless of playing in a huge alliance, in a corp by your self or in an NPC corp, we are all playing with and against everyone else as soon as we log on.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Whitehound
#13 - 2012-04-16 22:15:42 UTC
OMG. It is a friend request.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-16 22:17:28 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
You are choosing to play an MMOrpg by yourself, and are complaining about not having enough advantages?

Let's go down the list of things causal players tend to suggest.

  • Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.
  • More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.
  • Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.
  • Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.
  • Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
  • Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
  • Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.


Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.

Discuss.


Small holdings- Sure, so long as no one wants to compete over you with it and you can keep the rat population down enough to warrant your claim on SOV.

More Concord- You know, the hulk isn't the only ship that can mine... did no one teach you cost/profit analysis?

Bigger Solo ISK Faucets- Sure, so long as you are lucky, high skilled, and extremely sneaky. Its called stealing/ganking in case you were wondering.

Fleet Balancing- The "Titan" class ship used to have an A.O.E that made sup-cap fleet scurry like little ants Twisted

Perhaps we shall add some projected A.O.E as we don't like people blobbing up into incoherent masses.

Buy/Trade/More SP- Sure, we will eventually implement transferable attribute points so you can effectively buy faster training from other players with attribute points to spare. Pirate

Reimbursement- Sure, just pay the insurance premiums. Ship hulls aren't free you know. Bear

Dueling System- We were thinking of creating some arena type areas in high sec with entrance fees, rankings, and prizes. If you can get enough people to scream and whine on the forums for it, maybe we will implement it. Lol
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-04-16 22:21:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
masternerdguy wrote:
  • Small holdings - CCP, I don't want to join a real alliance so allow me and my 2 friends to claim a solar system while only protecting it part time.

  • More Concord - CCP, I don't want to lose my hulk because I mine afk and alone so please give it 300k EHP so I can continue to play solo.

    • Thought this was a sand box, who are you to tell me how I should play?

    You fail to understand that high sec is the safest place for grieffers, not for pve or regular pvp dudes. Grieffing is against CCP's rules and Concord mechanics abuses/exploits deserve a special treatment, and when those are not functioning properly or bug they must be reviewed.
    Players feedbak is important to change things in the game that are game breaking of bad experience for the community or a part of it, even if it's the part of it you hate.

    Quote:
  • Bigger Solo ISK Faucets - CCP, I don't have the time to invest in EVE so please make solo content that makes me still competitive with big teamplay content.

  • Fleet Balancing - CCP, I don't want to fly with friends so please make some weird mechanic that makes larger fleets less effective against my solo ship.

    • The very best solo content I've ever experienced in Eve is exploration and null sec exploration rewards, solo sanctums in null sec (yummy rats at 1.5M bounty and +) and gank, those activities don't need team work and I can do it whenever I have some time, plus my loss or risk are very small while rewards are huge except ganking.

    Quote:
  • Buy/Trade/More SP - CCP, I don't play as much so I should train faster than others to stay competitive.
  • Reimbursement - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should reimburse my losses in PVP.
  • Dueling System - CCP, I don't want to play with everyone else so you should make me only able to PVP when I feel like it.

    • For each of your issues above you have Plex, please refer to your account management and how to buy plex or find an official retailer and profit immediately of your favourite game:

    -buy awesome toons on toons bazaar

    -change/trade plex for isk and buy an empire with your loneliness, isk is your best friend.

    -pay isk to merc alliances and win at EvE.

    Buy your plex, now Blink

    You didn't saw what I did here but doesn't really matter.

    Quote:
    Stop suggesting game breaking things because you are unable/unwilling to invest the time or thought to play this game as a team, as it is intended to be.


    Indeed:
    -I want off gridd boost alts to be exterminated (game mechanic)

    -annihilation of neutral jam/rep alts

    -severe regulation/rules of multiboxing

    With only these 3 points I'm sure we would have more friends playing instead of alts right? -or not Pirate
    Fredfredbug4
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #16 - 2012-04-16 22:23:45 UTC
    MMORPG

    Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game

    Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for.

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    Corina Jarr
    en Welle Shipping Inc.
    #17 - 2012-04-16 22:26:19 UTC
    I play EVE casually, and I like it mostly the way it is, aside from some ships being totally useless (we shall see what CCP has in store for us on that front).
    Micheal Dietrich
    Kings Gambit Black
    #18 - 2012-04-16 22:28:11 UTC
    I play with myself






















    though I group in game.


    Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
    Tanya Powers
    Doomheim
    #19 - 2012-04-16 22:29:22 UTC
    Corina Jarr wrote:
    I play EVE casually, and I like it mostly the way it is, aside from some ships being totally useless (we shall see what CCP has in store for us on that front).



    That's the part I'm afraid of. Lol
    Rengerel en Distel
    #20 - 2012-04-16 22:32:41 UTC
    Fredfredbug4 wrote:
    MMORPG

    Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game

    Trying to play solo in an MMORPG is like expecting to play a shooter game without getting shot at. Point is, if you play solo you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you don't want to play with others you should not be accommodated for.


    You realize MULTIPLAYER means that more than one person is playing it at the same time, not that you have to play with those people, right? Oh, from your statement, I guess you don't.


    With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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