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GM's setting wallet to Negative - A bit harsh?
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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-16 22:01:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks



I dont know whether to laugh at the fact you think this is unfair or that you where expecting to get banned.

But in either case.

"You're a Moron" - Dr. House

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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#22 - 2012-04-16 22:34:00 UTC
This is one of those situations where the glass is either half empty, or half full, except it's not a glass, it's your wallet, it's five times as empty, and you can fill it back up through slavery. Have fun.
Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-16 22:37:56 UTC
Are you sure they didn't set it negative because of your epically stupid name?
Taresh Quickfingers
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-04-16 22:42:45 UTC
Five Thirty wrote:
Are you sure they didn't set it negative because of your epically stupid name?

Back at you?
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-04-16 22:53:51 UTC
i think its fair. if you have 500mil, and you buy 1bil you pay an annoy CCP tax plus take your isk you bought.
Raiz Nhell
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-16 23:07:21 UTC
You cheated, plain and simple...
CCP sets the rules, CCP sets the punishment...

Dunno how you thought you wouldn't get caught eventually...

Suck it up and pay the price...

BS rats take a long time to finish off with Civilian guns :)

There is no such thing as a fair fight...

If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#27 - 2012-04-17 00:11:38 UTC
Move on. Sell plex with alt and buy the stuff you need for main then trade/contract it to him. Keep the neg wallet, there are ways around it.

Or

Do what some of these very helpful people said and use the plex you buy legit to bring you back to a positive wallet.

The reason for a neg and not a ban is so you can log in every day and see the stupid decision/s you made. Which i think is p.coo

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Kyra Tanaka
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-17 02:45:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyra Tanaka
Your char is only 16 days old.

Just create a new char and start over.

Also be glad they didn't ban you but gave you a negative wallet. In any other MMO you would have been perma banned. Which I think every isk buyer deserves.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-04-17 02:50:24 UTC
Biomass, close account, open new account with different payment device. Problem solved
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#30 - 2012-04-17 03:48:26 UTC  |  Edited by: lanyaie
Hmm lets see, you knowingly bought ISK got caught and now you think the nice GM's will just punish you by saying you can't walk in the park anymore? Instead of them just burning it down.(Bad comparison I know)


I think you owe me and everyone else that read this thread an apology


Edit: hold on 16days old and already buying ISK?damn guy I wonder how much you would have bought after playing for a year.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Devore Sekk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-04-17 03:58:56 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks


This is very easy.

CCP merely wants one thing: for you to right your wrongs. You bought ISK/PLEX illegally, and benefited from it. So now just buy the PLEX legally, and repay your debt.

This does not seem like a very harsh form of punishment. Simply correct your ways, and you are free to go. You get a do-over, how easy can it possibly be!
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2012-04-17 04:40:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Welcome to your ban. I hope you enjoy your negative wallet balance.

RMTer tears best tears.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Kreeia Dgore
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-04-17 06:15:37 UTC
You know you did spend your money on flawed product (RMT stuff), right?
CCP does that, they sell isk (in form of plex). For a certain price. It is their way of both securing the company's development and having a certain level of control over the market, which can be usefull when sh*tstorm is approaching.
Even though i see all this CCP behavior as cruel (they COULD ban the whole account, but choose to tease the person by making him buy plexes instead and showing him what wonderfull and trained character would he loose if he chooses to simply abandone it), i have firm issues with emphatising. You know what? Buy plexes. CCP wants you to do that, you want the character up and running. It will cost you, but hey, buying not authorised stuff is always risky.
Imortality
Revolutionists
#34 - 2012-04-17 06:23:43 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch has been removed from corp, i'd rather not have this bad image placed upon us. Next time you are hurting for isk try doing it legit so you can be proud of what you have earned. If you make a new character in the future and build him up without having to cheat the game in anyway then you will be welcome back, until then you're on your own.
Axel Greye
Unlikely Suspects
#35 - 2012-04-17 06:42:19 UTC
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
This is one of those situations where the glass is either half empty, or half full, except it's not a glass, it's your wallet, it's five times as empty, and you can fill it back up through slavery. Have fun.
this made my day Lol
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#36 - 2012-04-17 08:33:47 UTC
Thrill yourself.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-04-17 08:35:20 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Hmm lets see, you knowingly bought ISK got caught and now you think the nice GM's will just punish you by saying you can't walk in the park anymore? Instead of them just burning it down.(Bad comparison I know)


I think you owe me and everyone else that read this thread an apology


Edit: hold on 16days old and already buying ISK?damn guy I wonder how much you would have bought after playing for a year.


I'm not 16d old?
Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-04-17 09:11:35 UTC
Alright, going to Biomass Hammer.

It was my own damn fault for being a cheap idiot and buying isk externally.


Sorry everyone.

Fly safe o7
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#39 - 2012-04-17 09:27:57 UTC
A coward's option.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#40 - 2012-04-17 09:31:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
I think this video is appropriate.

*I edited this post. Keep it civil, thanks*

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY