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GM's setting wallet to Negative - A bit harsh?
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Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-16 20:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Hammerin' Snatch
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks


Edit:
Going to Biomass Hammer.
My own fault for cheating, I deserve as much as I get.
Sorry everyone.

Fly safe o7
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-04-16 21:02:35 UTC
You still have a noobship and a mining laser. To the belts!
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-16 21:02:35 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:


A bit harsh?

No.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-16 21:03:21 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
You still have a noobship and a mining laser. To the belts!


=D

Would be interesting to find out how long that would take, I honestly imagine upwards of a year! xD
Immortis Vexx
Onyx Moon Industries
#5 - 2012-04-16 21:06:00 UTC
I feel bad for ya, I really do. However, it has been known for a long time now that buying money from anyone who is *NOT* CCP is a no no. The punishment is harsh but I feel that it is a fair one. I think the best solution is to biomass the toon and restart man. You only have a few months into the game so the skill point hit will be big but not catastrophic.

Just say NO to RMT.

Vexx
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#6 - 2012-04-16 21:06:17 UTC
Create an alt. to generate income for ammo and such. Or create a new account to work alongside your main.



o7
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-16 21:06:30 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
You still have a noobship and a mining laser. To the belts!


=D

Would be interesting to find out how long that would take, I honestly imagine upwards of a year! xD

And your point is... what?

If you can't grind the time, don't do the crime.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#8 - 2012-04-16 21:06:54 UTC
Sounds like you got some work to do. Maybe you can webcam for the Russians. lol
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-04-16 21:07:10 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
You still have a noobship and a mining laser. To the belts!


=D

Would be interesting to find out how long that would take, I honestly imagine upwards of a year! xD


Do it in a kestrel.


Since you like spending real money on fake sites now is your chance to make up for your retardation and buy the plex from the eve site until your back into the positive. Don't understand how people think they can get away with this crap.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Kepie
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-16 21:11:44 UTC
Do you always violate things you agree to?
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-04-16 21:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
You still have a noobship and a mining laser. To the belts!


=D

Would be interesting to find out how long that would take, I honestly imagine upwards of a year! xD
Unless he uses the trade window to sell what he mines to another character he would be unable to sell it on the market even to buy orders as it involves tax which he is unable to pay. Ammo wise should have gone Amarr Big smile

Black Man with Goggles
Kieron VonDeux
#12 - 2012-04-16 21:25:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kieron VonDeux
Buy some PLEX and sell them to bring you back into positive.

Also, I read somewhere that they are thinking about putting .01 isk charges on jet cans, trade windows, and etc to close those loop holes.


Edit: Sell PLEX on Alt and transfer ISK to naughty character who got caught.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-16 21:30:16 UTC
Selling PLEX in trade window deals in market hubs not for the faint of heart with all the cut throats about.

Black Man with Goggles
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#14 - 2012-04-16 21:33:20 UTC
Quit the game and let CCP deal with that they lost another player.
Hammerin' Snatch
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-04-16 21:36:23 UTC
Daisai wrote:
Quit the game and let CCP deal with that they lost another player.



Heh...

No thanks, EvE is too much fun to simply quit, if it comes down to it I'll have to roll another toon and mourn the loss of this guy forever...
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-16 21:38:53 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
So I guess I'm just looking for a GM

Then why are you posting on the forums?
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#17 - 2012-04-16 21:45:13 UTC
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Daisai wrote:
Quit the game and let CCP deal with that they lost another player.



Heh...

No thanks, EvE is too much fun to simply quit, if it comes down to it I'll have to roll another toon and mourn the loss of this guy forever...


Then it all depends on how much into negative isk you are.
You can buy a bunch of plexes and sell (what ccp wants you to do) or roll a new character transfer your stuff to that and sell it.
However training this would take some gametime so have to see what is worth more to you.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#18 - 2012-04-16 21:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Brewlar Kuvakei
Neg wallet is not a big deal just use an alt to buy stuff for you and trade it via contract or station trade. The only thing a neg wallet prevents is mission running ; you will lose out on mission reward payments, claiming player bounties on pods and market/contract trading for obvious reasons. Everything else in the game is uneffected including ratting, just set your corp tax to 100%. Come to think of it you could use corp wallet to market trade too.

I don't speak from experince of being made neg wallet FYI.

Neg wallet is hardly a detterent at all come to think of it so I hearby propose any corp wallet get put into negative isk for any players who get caught botting RMT'ng
jimmyjam
Fire Mandrill
#19 - 2012-04-16 21:57:35 UTC  |  Edited by: jimmyjam
Hammerin' Snatch wrote:
Alright so he's what I'm thinking on this matter, if you disagree, fair enough.

If you buy Isk or PLEX from a site not sanctioned by CCP I thought they will ban you if caught?

I for the last 5 months or so have been incredibly stupid enough to buy my PLEX from a external site. Yes yes I know, flame me etc but I was low on cash and well....lets me honest, its a lot cheaper on some sites.
Anyway, I've been getting away with it until I log in today and noticed that my balance is set to a negative. I check to see that a GM has set it to this amount.
Uh oh, busted...

Yep, well quite frankly thats what I get for being a idiot and breaking the rules right?
Well...sort of...

My wallet now sits at quite a large negative number, well into the billions.
This is my only toon, my main. Grinding back up that kind of isk will take a looooong time...
I thought I'd sell some stuff, ships etc to get the ball rolling.
Oh wait, I can't sell due to the sellers tax.

Better go mission.
Oh wait, I can't repair or buy ammo.


Have they always punished players who buy isk like this?

I'm sorry for what I've done and I completely deserve to be punished but quite frankly I'd prefer a ban and my wallet set to 0.
At least after a ban I will return to EvE without question, but this? I have no way of making up that isk unless I spend months missioning...thats a tad bit harsh CCP don't you think?


So I guess I'm just looking for a GM or such to respond with their view on this matter.
I'm all for taking a ban, I deserve to be banned for a time, I broke the rules.

I just don't agree with this form of punishment.

Thanks

You wont get sympathy here in this forum.You have just learned a simple lesson the hard way :)
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#20 - 2012-04-16 21:59:11 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Neg wallet is hardly a detterent at all come to think of it

I don't speak from experince of being made neg wallet FYI.

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