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Burn Jita a sandbox move?
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MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-16 19:19:40 UTC
So the United States pretty much banned the Taliban form walking the streets of New York after they flew a couple airplanes into some buildings.

Would The Caldari State and other empires really allow Goons back into high-sec after Burning Jita.

I thought the burn Jita initiative was pretty cool, until I realized it was very one sided and not very sandboxy at all. They are hiding behind a nice little one-way mirror on the sandbox reflection there. Maybe industrial carebears should be able to petition the empires to ban certain alliances from commerce lanes they are willing to grind to a halt.
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2012-04-16 19:21:30 UTC
Go do something about it then.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#3 - 2012-04-16 19:21:52 UTC
You tried too hard with that first sentence.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Ai Shun
#4 - 2012-04-16 19:27:21 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
Would The Caldari State and other empires really allow Goons back into high-sec after Burning Jita.


Do you have any idea how much money the Caldari state is going to make off the Burning of Jita?
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-04-16 19:30:18 UTC
I'm hoping CCP would role play a bit and add to the action some how
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-16 19:31:00 UTC
Oh Im happy about it - I am standing by with PLENTY of suplus to help all those poor souls, but

1) it's hard to say if the ship loss will make up for the transaction loss (if any different)
2) I was just talking in a pure sandbox sense.
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-16 19:36:26 UTC
So the "sandbox" thing to do is petition people who do something you don't like and ban them?
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-04-16 19:44:27 UTC
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
I'm hoping CCP would role play a bit and add to the action some how


Jove land, everything dies.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-16 19:45:47 UTC
Tl:DR

thread title answer: Yes

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#10 - 2012-04-16 19:50:38 UTC
As a representative of the Caldari State, we support the burning of Jita. The resulting event will increase sales of ship, modules and ammo by a large margin, allowing the State, and all those who align with our mercantile nature to greatly increase the profits for their orders.

Remember, the State is not hampered by weaknesses as liberalism, democracy or providing security for the masses. If you want security, you can hire any of the State approved mercenary capsuleer organisations.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#11 - 2012-04-16 19:54:04 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:

Would The Caldari State and other empires really allow Goons back into high-sec after Burning Jita.

I thought the burn Jita initiative was pretty cool, until I realized it was very one sided and not very sandboxy at all. They are hiding behind a nice little one-way mirror on the sandbox reflection there. Maybe industrial carebears should be able to petition the empires to ban certain alliances from commerce lanes they are willing to grind to a halt.


It's actually many of the "carebears" not the Goons that would likely be banned from Caldari space by following your reasoning. Unless they're part of the Caldari militia why would the Caldari State be more annoyed at a Goon for suicide ganking a pod pilot than they would some missioner that once destroyed Caldari Navy NPCs?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2012-04-16 19:55:32 UTC
MasterEnt wrote:
I thought the burn Jita initiative was pretty cool, until I realized it was very one sided and not very sandboxy at all. They are hiding behind a nice little one-way mirror on the sandbox reflection there. Maybe industrial carebears should be able to petition the empires to ban certain alliances from commerce lanes they are willing to grind to a halt.
No, that would be one-sided. The sandbox is there as it is: they have tools at their disposal and they're using them to impact the game world. The traders also have a number of tools at their disposal and can use them to impact the game world.

What you're suggesting is that one party should be allowed to change the world and not the other.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#13 - 2012-04-16 19:56:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
In a sandbox question, you are asking NPC empires to go beyond their preordain grasp to that of concord powers and effect a large group structure like Goons because the disorganized individual traders cant think of a way around it . LoL lore wise, its a valid maneuver, it is a capsular issue. Capsular clash in which only capsular goods are at stake anyway. Those in good standings with the empires are still merely 3ed party contractors. They are not going to bring the whole navy to save a few people who cant help themselves. The capsulars made Jita 4-4 what it is. And we can destroy it.

and with OP, that first sentence is dumb, this scenario doesn't even have a real world counterpart.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#14 - 2012-04-16 20:09:09 UTC
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#15 - 2012-04-16 20:09:26 UTC
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#16 - 2012-04-16 20:18:20 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.


lanyaie wrote:
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.



You must be ignoring this thread twice as much.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#17 - 2012-04-16 20:32:56 UTC
Goons, like all Sov holding alliances avoid Jita 364 days a year anyway. Jita war dec campers see to that. Unless you would like to try and bann thier alts.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#18 - 2012-04-16 20:35:54 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
lanyaie wrote:
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.


lanyaie wrote:
Whenever someone compares eve to reallife I just ignore the thread.



Oh no a guy posted 2x let me go think off something funny to say.


Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-04-16 20:41:46 UTC
why are people still derping about burn jita.

leave jita
????
profit.. the only people who should care are people who station trade all day. or camp the exit.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#20 - 2012-04-16 20:49:37 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
This just in, I still don't care



Someone who didn't care about the topic yet had to reply why the topic was bad has posted at least twice now on exactly how much they don't care about various things. Better comment and show how much I support their opinions.
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