EVE General Discussion

They already have one, it's called fighting. How ever there will always be a % of players who will consider every other option before doing this. Now you can try to take these options away or restrict them but thiers one you have no control over and thats logging off and going to play another game until the war is over, or as I advise people get an alt.

Expanding on the ideas in that article:

First when a war is declared there is no timer it happens right then right now. Then both corps attacking and defending loose all npc station access . thats right when you are in a war you are no longer allowed access to the npc stations (this has a purpose)

Both attacking and defender will be forced to anchor a player command station (if one or the other dose not, one will be placed at a random location. )

The player command station is where the players will be able to doc to change out ships, clone up, repair, refit, and store items,
it is also the only way they will be able to participate in the market and via contracts. (this ensures players can still acquire ships and services to fuel their war efforts)

Waging war should incur risks on both sides, war should also invoke the need of maintaining and upkeep of the logistics to maintain the war. the way eve works now logistics is thrown out the window and everybody just makes use of the npc stations to provide the necessary up keep and protection . (the npc stations should remain neutral and deny all access to waring parties)

As stated in the article there needs to be a goal with war rather than just griefing people which is all the war dec system is .
the player command stations give the warring parties clear goals to attack and to defend when the last command structure falls the war is over and much loot is to be had for winner.

the player command stations is what drives the war they are the points that need to be defended or destroyed they give the players clear goals in the war . they make both parties vulnerable since they both rely on the command stations to provide them with the necessary logistics to attack and or defend.

the stations prevents people from docking up in a invulnerable npc station it also encourages small gang warfare as there will be a need to find the opposing command station. if both parties are actively seeking out the other station many skirmishes will most likely ensue .

im sure their are many scenarios where this could be exploited to grief or deny players but the key is banning warring parties from the npc stations. this ensures that both parties are exposed and that there is a clear goal to winning the war .

yeah that sucks but then those attackers are left with no place to dock up less their ceo is on the ball and places that station a.s.a.p

I think CCP should let us wardeck NPC corps.

who's with me?

the article was utter trash. obviously who ever wrote it is pushing the eve uni agenda or has no concept of how eve works.

much better options have been posted other then this repeated trash.

It would be interesting to do the structure idea for the aggressor. If you want to declare war then you have to also defend this structure. It would also allow another way for the group who got decced to end it, instead of the current bore them into dropping the dec, or corp hopping to avoid dec. It would also open up the use of mercenaries since it would actually give an objective. Either way it would limit the number of griefer decs and give smaller yet more organized corps a chance of surviving a dec. It would suck however for those who do multiple decs, but that's the risk you take.

Bad idea to trust CCP to fix anything really.

I can't be weak, as I am not touched the slightest by the changes, I don't need a corp to trade. My corp exists only because I like to have several different wallets to split different customers investments into and keep everything orderly.

Unlike you, I try figuring out how the mechanic should be changed to make EvE fun and actually *entice* people to PvP. Your kind is why PvP averse people exist, you are just out to crush somebody else with no chance to fight back and then cry on the forums why "carebears" avoid PvP. They avoid it because they are not idiots ready to jump in your frying pan.
If EvE was like other PvP games, where both sides stand a chance, then you'd see people actually accepting the challenge. Not all, but much more than the current meager handful.




Illusional much? The new mechanic is as stupid as the old one, it FAILS to make fighting back useful therefore it also FAILS to fix the underlying simple fact that you CANNOT force somebody to PvP back if they see it's useless.
As for being able to hire a merc corp... when my old corp teamed up with GIS (famous German mercs) we would do *1* non trivial task at a time. I have no reason to believe this changed 3 years later. With the new mechanism, "brand" mercs will be always busy so people will have to resort to unknown mercs. Unknown mercs don't have a "face", they are unreliable and may as well wardec you with an alt corp just to keep sgnatching money off you.




Duh.

The war dec system will cause huge emire alliances to avoid wars, because of the costs for the new war decs. In my opinion, todays war dec system is nice.

Well the writer of the article has a valid point.

There is very little to no point of a high-sec war.
There is just nothing in High-sec worth fighting over.

IF wars are ever going to be fixed, CCP and the players are actually going to have to figure out a reason to have a war.
Till you do that any mechanic you create will be wasted.