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Why could (or indeed can) ISD members convo you automatically without your permission?

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#21 - 2012-04-16 18:52:53 UTC
Luxi Daphiti wrote:
How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs.



I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#22 - 2012-04-16 18:55:50 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
ISD violated your privates?





lol
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#23 - 2012-04-16 18:56:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Granting a company the earth and your immortal soul through an EULA is one thing: how a company behaves in it's implementation of that and it's other policies is something else entirely.
Good thing that you're not doing anything of the sort then, but rather agree that you will co-operate with ze law or have the law co-operate you for them.

…or what Micheal Dietrich said. They're not invading your privacy. They're contacting you and you're obliged to do what they say.
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#24 - 2012-04-16 18:56:45 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Luxi Daphiti wrote:
How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs.



I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.



Volunteer moderators banning people? Wowzers!
Luxi Daphiti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-04-16 18:57:24 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Hello? That's precisely the point - I *can't* ignore them because they pull me into a chat room without me having any say in the matter!

Yeah but no one is forcing you to hit keys on your keyboard and respond to them. Just say you're AFK and then never return.

Micheal Dietrich wrote:
I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.

If there is a ban for not 'cooperating' then fair enough, I'll support of OP. Else, I not entirely sure what the bother is. Maybe I need to experience it for myself!
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-16 19:02:22 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Luxi Daphiti wrote:
How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs.



I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.



If you have nothing to hide and in front of your computer you can answer.
If you're afk for whatever reason and if they really want to contact you, they must know by know you need an E-mail adress for your account registration.

Another fail in the wall.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#27 - 2012-04-16 19:11:56 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Luxi Daphiti wrote:
How is it invading your privacy? If someone walks up to you in the street and goes "Hi, how's it going?" that not an invasion of privacy because you didn't explicitly state that they may enter a discussion with you. You just walk away and/or ignore them. Do the same with the ISDs.



I think it'd be more like a cop coming up and saying "excuse me, can you step over here for a moment". If you step away from the cop he's going to restrain you until you cooperate with him. If you close the convo on the ISD then they'll probably temp ban you until you cooperate with them.



If you have nothing to hide and in front of your computer you can answer.
If you're afk for whatever reason and if they really want to contact you, they must know by know you need an E-mail adress for your account registration.

Another fail in the wall.




Being AFK is one thing, eventually you'll be back to your PC. I'm talking about intentionally closing the convo on them.


And to my knowledge the ISD can't ban but they can send your information and the recommendation to those who can. That same party can also come and check on you to see if you are intentionally ignoring them or not.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-04-16 19:15:04 UTC
Gorki, who do the forums belong to? ........... CCP yes of course they do.

Who employs the ISDs? ............................... CCP yes of course they do.

so the ISDs police the forums, and if your out of order, the ISDs will feel your collar.

If you have a problem with it petition CCP. I,m quite sure they will read you the riot act.

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-04-16 19:24:09 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
I was trolling and got collared, I don't like this.

In pace requiescat
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-04-16 19:31:45 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Sasha Azala wrote:
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
why do you care. unless they spam it idont see the issue.




I care because I can


e: it's an important issue to my heart




More like, you're in competition with Masternerdguy. I think Masternerdguy is ahead though, but then he's probably had more practice.



Or maybe he is masternerdguy
+1 for proper use of Dramatic Chipmunk.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-04-16 19:32:34 UTC
I like that they do this - It lets me know who NOT to vote for right away.
Makes it easier.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-04-16 19:35:28 UTC
This thread is going places.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#33 - 2012-04-16 19:39:23 UTC
You have no character privacy in regards to CCP and their underlings. You can escalate any possible mishandling of ISD powers to GMs. Yet if you get your leash yanked cause your trolling the protected rookie systems or the like, then don't ***** and moan.
You are on a private server. You acknowledge this with that ToS you never read and scroll though. Your rights are limited to what CCP and various international laws dictate.
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#34 - 2012-04-16 19:45:33 UTC
ISD pulls you into chat? Then close it as soon as it pops up, ISD does it again? Close it as soon as it pops up. Let it become a mini-game of sorts, a test of will. After the ISD gives up file a petition under harassment with the chat logs showing how many times chats were opened.

Use their BS against them.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-04-16 19:50:01 UTC
XIRUSPHERE wrote:

Use their BS against them.
Yeah, like THAT is gunna end well.
Roll

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#36 - 2012-04-16 20:00:13 UTC
Subdolus Venator wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:

Use their BS against them.
Yeah, like THAT is gunna end well.
Roll


Personal experience it has, I have used undesirable high level correspondence to flip a situation in my favour before. It's quite possible to give someone the rope they need to hang themselves even if they work for the game.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-04-16 20:01:47 UTC
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
Subdolus Venator wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:

Use their BS against them.
Yeah, like THAT is gunna end well.
Roll


Personal experience it has, I have used undesirable high level correspondence to flip a situation in my favour before. It's quite possible to give someone the rope they need to hang themselves even if they work for the game.

Perhaps.

But I'm betting the other way.

EVE is EVE - Feaces will eventuate.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2012-04-16 20:04:01 UTC
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
ISD pulls you into chat? Then close it as soon as it pops up, ISD does it again? Close it as soon as it pops up. Let it become a mini-game of sorts, a test of will. After the ISD gives up file a petition under harassment with the chat logs showing how many times chats were opened.
…have petition denied and be flagged for breaking §1 of the TOS: you are not allowed to obstruct CCP employees and representatives from doing their job and refuse to follow their instructions.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#39 - 2012-04-16 20:17:32 UTC
Will saying funny right nowearn me more spaceship likes?

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-16 20:38:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
XIRUSPHERE wrote:
ISD pulls you into chat? Then close it as soon as it pops up, ISD does it again? Close it as soon as it pops up. Let it become a mini-game of sorts, a test of will. After the ISD gives up file a petition under harassment with the chat logs showing how many times chats were opened.
…have petition denied and be flagged for breaking §1 of the TOS: you are not allowed to obstruct CCP employees and representatives from doing their job and refuse to follow their instructions.



I hope it's not in their attributions to harass those people behind their computer, it's already not a good experience in game with pixels characters Lol

Well at least I open often enough my in game and out game personal e-mail box to check my mails, so if someone can't get in contact with me, it's really because that person has bad intentions. Blink
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