EVE General Discussion

Nope. I believe they even have to be spun up/spooled up.

What I don't understand is why everyone is so against close range fleet battles.... It's how they should be after-all...

To be honest fighting at extreme close range in space is probably really unrealistic.

Awesome, if true.
That would reward actual practice and clear tactical thinking.


Human skill and reflexes > Button-mashing.

While I agree with you in theory, EVE is about button mashing. More simplified games can be played that way, but having to wait n seconds for locking time and cycle turrets kind of makes the whole idea improbable.

It being a Battleship class module and having a 2 minute cooldown is actually fair and appropriate I think, and might result in more Battleships being brought to fights given they will suddenly have an improved and more versatile role on the field. You might see a problem with Machariels becoming suddenly overpowered however and with Fleets in 0.0 which will suddenly be able to close range and avoid Drake missile spam by jumping past it. It will make things more interesting though.

This is not a module that will "encourage" more combat as CCP claimed they wanted to do in Inferno. It strikes me as another tool people will use to run away from/avoid a potential fight.

I agree. This and the hellcat nerf are part of a larger conspiracy to dumb EVE down.

True enough I suppose.
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I hadn't seen the data dump, and apparently missed the spool up and cool down discussion as well... although I had assumed this would have to be part of the mechanic.

Did I miss it or do we know what range the MJD Interdictor Bubbles are going to have? That's going to be a huge factor, especially since it looks like the take a while to anchor... which makes them primarily a tool for the defenders to use (or as part of an area set up as a trap).

Don't get me wrong, as I said I am very much for new tactical options on the battlefield... as long as they don't completely disenfranchise an existing tactic like a sniper fleet. Personally I prefer combat of any scale to be "in your face", but I'm more concerned with over all game balance discussions like this.

I don't really consider a Drake fleet to be a true sniper fleet, in fact I'd like to see a mechanic that made the option to have extreme range fleets viable again (150km) yet still have a good counter. The more tactics (including attack range) available and effective, yet still easily counterable with the correct tactic by your opponent, the better.

Edit: Also, am I seeing that MJD will also be affected by standard warp scram/bubbles? If so that opens up some interesting options. Namely put up a MJK Interdiction bubble around yourself (hopefully it has good range) while retaining the ability to simply warp out as normal... but a traditional bubble keeps a fleet pinned from not only warp but from Micro Jumps as well.

I don't see what all the hubb-bub is about. At least with respect to lowsec piracy... we do that now. Hell even the null guys have bookmarks all around the gates and stations in their home systems (most anyway). Want to jump 100km? Warp to that bookmark at 170km away at a range of 70. This is already common practice. Take a look at ninja looters in Tama or the current back and forth going on between gatecampers/pirates/mission runners/bigger corps in Malia.